RE: Was Muhammad a Pedophile?
May 28, 2011 at 6:20 pm
(This post was last modified: May 28, 2011 at 6:29 pm by fr0d0.)
No need for me to repeat what Sae and Rayaan have said there. You say you aren't trying to force your culture onto someone else when you clearly are Cinjin.
<edit> to address the post you just made while I was posting this
We might agree lines to be drawn, but not easily cross culturally. THAT is where the rub is.
It seems as if all of us here are agreeing on the point on the 9 year old girl. What isn't clear is the age when she married, or the age she was when the marriage was consummated, and what that consummation entailed. We DO know that she went on to be a successful woman, that the marriage and consummation was with the blessing of her parents and culture. If basic human decency was violated then the above doesn't fit, unless you are saying that great exception was made for the prophet, which I find very hard to believe... that there is no evidence of dissent that survived him. That's a pretty thin claim if that's what you're making, and we'd all here agree in principle with you. But we have to keep that in perspective. It would be foolish to ignore the facts and suppose something wholly unlikely.
<edit> to address the post you just made while I was posting this
We might agree lines to be drawn, but not easily cross culturally. THAT is where the rub is.
It seems as if all of us here are agreeing on the point on the 9 year old girl. What isn't clear is the age when she married, or the age she was when the marriage was consummated, and what that consummation entailed. We DO know that she went on to be a successful woman, that the marriage and consummation was with the blessing of her parents and culture. If basic human decency was violated then the above doesn't fit, unless you are saying that great exception was made for the prophet, which I find very hard to believe... that there is no evidence of dissent that survived him. That's a pretty thin claim if that's what you're making, and we'd all here agree in principle with you. But we have to keep that in perspective. It would be foolish to ignore the facts and suppose something wholly unlikely.
