RE: Was Muhammad a Pedophile?
May 29, 2011 at 3:17 am
(This post was last modified: May 29, 2011 at 3:18 am by Violet.)
Cinjin Wrote:That was my whole point Rayaan. I said there IS a line that is drawn that makes morality NO LONGER subjective. Pay attention!!
That "line" turns morality into basic human decency.
What is this line that is not subjective? I certainly haven't heard of it before... tell me then: what is basic human decency?

Quote:I'll give a for instance for you. If I snuck into Sae's house while she was out and hid away in the dark for her to return and upon that return decided to beat her senseless, sexually assault her and than cut her head off for my own amusement ... THAT would be morally wrong. THAT is not SUBJECTIVE! THAT is the knowledge of BASIC HUMAN DECENCY! You see now??!?!? a line CAN be drawn!
Good luck beating me senseless, sexually assaulting me, and cutting off my head though


Also, unlike most people here: I do not consider doing things for one's amusement to be morally 'wrong'. I consider doing things *without any reason or for any goal* to be without morals... but no moral can be wrong. Inherent in identity, all morals are all morals. They are not a thing that can be wrong while they are themselves. Wrongness is when a thing claims to be something that it isn't, ie: 2+2=7. What is 'right' is for a thing to follow logically. What is wrong is for this to not be the case.
That said, I certainly would not want you to do such a thing to me. But I wouldn't think you without morals for doing it: I would consider you of negative worth to me, and would either attempt to kill you or attempt to get away. Probably both at the same time, while warning others of potential danger if possible.
You say a line can be drawn where there is no capacity for middle ground. Morality is, is not not, and must be so or not. Moral wrongness is a misnomer and that is all

Quote:Pay THE FUCK attention! Morality is subjective on many levels. I never said it wasn't.
On all levels, even. Which you suppose it isn't

(May 28, 2011 at 6:22 pm)Cinjin Cain Wrote:(May 28, 2011 at 6:20 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: No need for me to repeat what Sae and Rayaan have said there. You say you aren't trying to force your culture onto someone else when you clearly are Cinjin.
Thank you. We're all glad you chose to shut up.
I'm not: I like fr0d0 and what he has to say, usually

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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day