RE: Can you explain why Hillary sucks?
October 10, 2016 at 2:14 pm
(This post was last modified: October 10, 2016 at 2:15 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(October 10, 2016 at 1:39 pm)Whateverist Wrote: While still feeling a bit taken aback by my own ignorance regarding H. Clinton, I have to say I still disagree with you on this point. Who really ever fully knows themselves? I don't consider that a completed mission in my own case and I never assume that anyone else is holding all their own cards either.
No, no one knows themselves fully, but I know myself a damned sight better than someone online I don't know from Adam's housecat. You're cordially invited to serch my 13000+ posts -- and she is as well -- to support any charge of sexism you may wish to lay. But let's be clear -- you are defending someone's willingness to make baseless charges against someone else. I don't think that's a hill you want to fight for.
(October 10, 2016 at 1:39 pm)Whateverist Wrote: I don't think it has to be intended as a slur to suggest that someone else may be missing something. I can't imagine Aurora thinks of you as a vile, sexist guy any more than I do. But I'll leave that for her to pursue if she wants to.
Again, it's not for her, you, or anyone else to define my offense. Offense is taken as well as given, and if she didn't intend to offend, that's for her to say. That doesn't mean that my offense is wrong.
(October 10, 2016 at 1:39 pm)Whateverist Wrote: I don't and in general, people will let you know when they don't want to explore their potential unconscious motivations with you .. and that you have done very clearly.
Bullshit. I'm happy to talk about such matters. I've talked openly about my alcoholism, and wondered about what drove me to such self-destructive behavior, and why it's still a difficult struggle for me at times ... not exactly flattering stuff there, y'know? What I'm objecting to here is some Internet asshole coming along and blowing off my opinion based on a baseless charge. ZERO evidence for it, just waving the slur around. And make no mistake: calling someone sexist is every bit as much a slur as calling someone racist, in my book.
I can't imagine your motivations for wanting to defend such behavior, but unlike you, or her, I'm not going to try to impute thought processes to you, when I have no clear evidence for them in your words. That's called giving the benefit of the doubt, and I'd like to think I've earnt some around here.
(October 10, 2016 at 1:39 pm)Whateverist Wrote: I confess I only went there to draw the parallel between throwing shade on Hillary. But after watching that video I can see why she is drawing so much of it. So let me apologize again for going there. I was wrong.
I'll be honest with you, this persistent defense of baseless charges against me is much more enervating. But for what it's worth, I've already accepted your apology over that.