Is there objective Truth?

[Soldat Du Christ]

Hello, Soldat Du Christ.  First off, I wanted to give you some kudos for persevering through this thread.  It is not an easy feat to do what you are doing here (it reminds me of a chessmaster playing simultaneous games).  With that said, I have some questions for you.  To be clear, by asking these questions, I'm not looking to argue or engage in a high school debate; however, I'm very interested in learning your perspective on these matters. 

Thanks man. Not sure if you saw my introduction thread, but contrary to what you might expect from sombody staking there evangelical claim on a atheism forum, i'm actualy here to learn. And so far i have learned alot it's been a very fruitfull endevor these past few days! My second motive is to see if there are any holes in theistic epistimology. Yes i'm serious! In all my studies i've yet to find a satisfactory refutation, all the while find plenty of holes in the contrary.

 

At some point there needs to be an uncaused first cause to set it all in motion

IMO, the above statement uses human rationality to make sense of what caused everything to begin.  However, does reality operate in strict accordance with a humanistic mindset? Could there be other ways to make sense of reality that we just haven't stumbled upon yet?

I agree, it requires human rationality to make sense of anything. From my world view, Rationality, logic, immaterial laws, all come from the creator, as a result all of creation are under the same laws. From the opposing view (Order out if chaos) i can see how one could end up in the position of questioning there own ability to reason these things out with confidence. That is a major flaw, trying to justify the brain using the brain. Incabable of doing so, it only follows to retreat to uncertainty. This is NOT a sane, nor a reasonable way to live. But people will at the end of the day believe what they want to

The big bang doesn't prove anything in that regard, all it does is confirm there was a begining. Anything before that is theory. Any attempt at a material explanation is self defeating. Only a supernatural cause is plausable.

Why does this have to be attributed to a supernatural cause? Why can't it be some different way of operating that we just don't know about or are currently too limited to understand?

There are only two possible answers to this problem. Either matter made mind, or mind made matter. Supernatural cause, or natural cause. All theory will fall into either of these catagories would you agree? Now, any attempts at explaining this start through natural means simply doesn't fly.

Nothing follows from nothing. Okay... So maybe it was a bunch of math floating around? Well then that isn't "nothing". And you are only following down a path of infinite cause and effect.