How the fuck is there a statute of limitations for rape in New York?

[LadyForCamus]

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Do you think it is right to call combat soldiers murderers? what if your brother went to syeria and joined ISIS and was killed by a US soldier? It is proper to call the soldier a murderer or is it ok to say your brother was murdered?

Do you think it is right to call someone who shoots and kill one of your family members a murderer IF he the guy is honestly defending his life? the same here was your family member murdered and is the man who killed them a murderer?

In both instances the law allows for the taking of human life so legally the killing of an enemy combatant is not murder nor is legal self defense. The word murder describes a criminal act. If the law does not allow for prosecution the act maybe the same (the net result/your family member died at the hands of another) but to the law it is as it never happened.

Meaning in either of the cases above the government can not rightfully detain or prosecute a criminal case.

The same is true with rape. the word rape describes a criminal act. like murder. However if one takes into account the SOL as being an end date to prosecution, then effectivly it nullifies any legal recourse/chance for justice a victim has.

To take away the right to call a rape a rape, will indeed push someone who wants justice to act. It will also make a perpetual victim react. so both can be identified.

To the perpetual victim you help them understand the road they are on. Many don't choose this path, they are simply stuck on it, and need help because they never ever said anything and don't know where to go. So you offer them help or allow them the room to be what they want to be.

I also would argue (but am not willing to die on this hill) that if one allows a rapist go without prosecution, to possibly rape someone else.. then there must be some reason they Allowed the sex to not be classified as rape legally.


With an SOL it is.. my thoughts of the matter do not matter. i am not speaking for a point of personal philosophy, but in accordance to how the law reads.

Again the reason for a SOL in a rape case is because The only difference between rape and consentual sex is consent and there is no physical evidence/dna for consent. This is true one day after the fact let alone 5 years.

The only measure we have to gauge consent in Most cases is time. which again answers the OP's question.


After 10 years, and all that remained was a tape of a fake rape session with no run up or explanation, just a brutal session of forced sex, how is one to establish consent? At best you MIGHT build a circumstantial defense, anything else will be he said she said.

Now again, EP admitted this was his thing, and I'm sure if one simply saw the act and did not know anything else about the couple EP would probably goto jail based on the only evidence available/the tape. The only thing that keeps his walking the street is none of his victims/girlfriends has made the claim the his forced sex was indeed not consensual.

So again, the reason for the SOL. The thought being time will flesh out the victims from the weirdos. (no offense EP)


But this is exactly what is happening in the streets of Ferguson, Milwaukee, Charolett ect.
The populas has tried and convicted in the court of popular opinion and demand punishment without due process. Just by just labeling the police offers murders. When their brand of 'justice' is not met. they "burn this bitch down."

The are presuming guilt before due process. they want the cops to be treated as guilty and then proove their innocence.

It's not being suggested It is being played out on our city streets when a segment of the population feels like they are not being treated 'fairly.'

How else can you chant "no justice no peace" then burn down several blocks pillage and loot, and FEEL MORALLY JUSTIFIED in doing so?

Are we to also now add rape to the list?

Again, yes the act of a sexual assault was committed, but to call it a rape should be determined by it's legal status, not by how one 'feels' or morally justifies their feelings.

Remember, laws are mean to be the checks and balances to our own personal moral justifications. You start bypassing the law on a small level like using terms out of place it allows for larger 'justifications.' Which again are being played out on our streets now.

I am a 'one who has suffered' and i still see a greater need for the community to stand with the laws that were made without the slant of emotion or hurt put upon them. there is a far greater issue than the one who has suffered or even the millions who have suffered it is the rights and freedoms of the 100's of millions if not billions who are having their rights, challenged or in somecases taken away by a well meaning, but often blind group of people.

No, empowerment doesn't come in giving people the right to label just anyone with a criminal act. (that is embitterment) the empowerment comes in following the law, contributing to the process of society, and seeing justice carried out no matter the verdict.

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So close to being a human, Drich.  So close...

Unfortunately for you, you never provided sufficient evidence for your bald assertion that the word "rape" is only meaningful or definable in legal context, and in fact, multiple people here demonstrated that assertion to be FALSE.  When you were asked to provide said evidence for your assertion you played dumb and changed the subject.  So, your argument that a victim has no "right" to use that word in a private sense if they can't use it in a legal sense is completely without merit.  

Your dead terrorist/combat soldier example is a poor analogy to a rape victim/rapist.  There is no such thing as a justified rape, or a justified sexual assault.  But it's irrelevant anyhow for the reason I just stated in the paragraph above.

I'm not going to be bothered with all the police shooting/rioting crap you blasted me with because it has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm talking about.  Pass.

Go ahead if you want, and keep telling sexual assault victims they can't have the word "rape" unless the guy goes to jail for it.  Keeping putting agendas before human beings.  Let me know how it works out for you.  "Think, feel, act however you want.  I can only offer a different perspective."