RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian
June 3, 2011 at 1:24 am
(This post was last modified: June 3, 2011 at 1:48 am by Godscreated.)
(June 2, 2011 at 11:50 am)Darwinian Wrote:(June 2, 2011 at 12:28 am)Godschild Wrote: God is not responsible for man's actions just as a parent is not responsible for the action of a child.
Aha, but an omniscient parent who knows full well that some of his children will go on to commit unspeakable acts of barbarity and knows this before these children are even born and still continues to allow their existence. What about a parent like that?
An omniscient parent does not exist except for God, so there is no way to answer that question. The fact that God allows man to do barbaric thngs is called freewill, I know this is a point of contention on this forum but that's doesn't make freewill by God any less true.
(June 2, 2011 at 1:04 pm)FaithNoMore Wrote:(June 2, 2011 at 9:49 am)Godschild Wrote:
What I do not understand is why you think his plans do not depend on man's actions, yet you claim he was instrumental in the founding of the U.S. constitution, which was brought about by man's actions. If god truly had a plan for a country being built, he would be relying on the people who were building it. If he was not relying on the will of the people constructing the country, then the people involved would have lost their free will. This brings about the question as to why god would intervene for the creating of a constitution, but not in the slaughtering of millions. It seems, however, that since you have assumed that god is good, you are automatically assuming all acts of good are god's will, and evil acts are humanity's will.
The point that I'm trying to get across is that god either has some responsibility for the evil, or nothing to do with the good.
Yes you are right that man's action brought us the constitution, God however called certain men to be a part of this process and their christian beliefs were influential in the final document. God's will can not be determined by man because no man can influence God. God being omniscient does not need the limited sight of man to decided what He should do. That would be like a dog trying to teach it's owner how to teach the dog tricks when the dog has no idea what is going on in the first place.
Before you ask how these men knew God had called them to this task they probably did not, I can not be sure of that though since I was not there, God prepared these men for this role in their lives and this could have started with their parents or others in their lives. The reason I say this, because this is the way God has worked in my life and the lives of many christians that I personally know.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.


