Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian

[Godscreated]

Yes you are right that man's action brought us the constitution, God however called certain men to be a part of this process and their christian beliefs were influential in the final document. God's will can not be determined by man because no man can influence God. God being omniscient does not need the limited sight of man to decided what He should do. That would be like a dog trying to teach it's owner how to teach the dog tricks when the dog has no idea what is going on in the first place.

Your analogy proves my point as the owner then becomes dependent upon the dog to complete the task. No matter how well you teach a dog to do something, you are then relying on the dog to do what you have taught it, just as God would have had to rely on humans.

Your right man does need the dog to complete the task as far as the trick goes when the dog is involved, man however can complete the task himself if need be. God never needs a man to complete His will, He can look down through history and see who He desires to put in place to work within His will, or if He desires He can do it Himself, God however has chosen to work through man to complete His will.

Before you ask how these men knew God had called them to this task they probably did not, I can not be sure of that though since I was not there, God prepared these men for this role in their lives and this could have started with their parents or others in their lives.

How do you claim to know that God prepared these men for anything? How do you know that God wasn't absent and everything that happened was because of the will of these men? You say that God had nothing to do with the genocide to colonize this country, because it was the will of men. Then you say that the men were prepared by God in creating the constitution. Once again, you are giving responsibility of the good to God, while dismissing the bad as the will of men. Why is it that you believe that humans are capable of committing such acts of violence on their own, yet anything good must have been guided by God?

Yes I'm saying God had nothing to do with the atrocities committed against the Indians. Man is capable of great inhumanities against man, you can believe no other way since you do not believe in God so I do not need to explain any further. God is good and can not commit evil as that would be sinful and God can not sin. I'm not saying that man does not do good man is capable of do good.

The reason I say this, because this is the way God has worked in my life and the lives of many christians that I personally know.

That is not the way your life has worked, that is just the way you have perceived your life to work. Everyone is going to have experiences in their life that seem to be guided by fate, or God if you will, but this is just circumstance. We humans perceive structure in randomness, because it is our nature to organize the chaos, and to try and put meaning behind things that are random occurrences.

You can not say that as a truth because you can not disprove God, I do not have to prove there is a God because I know for myself that He is real and working in my life and that is all that is required on my part. It's not my fault you do not believe, you have chosen that for yourself, it's your responsibility as to how you chose to believe or not believe and that choice has no real bearing on me.

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God is not responsible for man's actions just as a parent is not responsible for the action of a child.

Aha, but an omniscient parent who knows full well that some of his children will go on to commit unspeakable acts of barbarity and knows this before these children are even born and still continues to allow their existence. What about a parent like that?

And an omnipresent god would be able to stop or influence any action by anyone anywhere. So he allows evil to exist and doesn't nothing. It's almost like he wasn't there.

Yes God could do that but that's not the way He has chosen to work in this world, how can you say that He does nothing, man might have destroyed himself by now if God had allowed all evil to prevail.