RE: What is your Favorite Religious Contradiction?
June 3, 2011 at 4:35 pm
(This post was last modified: June 3, 2011 at 4:37 pm by Violet.)
(June 3, 2011 at 1:25 am)tackattack Wrote: That would also explain while the majority are atheists and not theists then too hunh CC?
Since asked,
Yes I believe some of you are going to go to hell in the final judgement, not because you're not nice, but because you reject God. Some of you are truly open to the possibility, just waiting for a sign. Most aren't and no amount of personal revelation will get past your personal bias. It still doens't make your statement correct though.
My only problem with your statement was the burning forever part. Standard Doctrine I learned and teach is that a soul is destroyed in hell, therefore non existent, and not eternally burning.
Am I one of those mean old God rejecters?
Hell doesn't sound particularly unpleasant if it is not eternal
Quote:No need it's Luke 16. I'll address your real point first then dole out the requested apologetics.
I do believe it is a lake of fire. Whether literal or figurative is immaterial, as if you threw something in a lake of fire, it would eventually be destroyed. That was my point.
The unstoppable force meets the immovable object
Quote:Do you want me to treat it literally or figuratively, both are invalid. Me personally, I think that the grave (hell in your verse) being cast into a lake of fire on judgement day, would necessitate that hell and the lake of fire aren't even the same thing. Perhaps the grave, hell, hades, tartaros and gehenna are states of discard. Perhaps they're a holding pattern until the second ressurection and final judgement. Perhaps prior to Jesus being known, people are in a place atoning for their crimes or resting peacfully and since we just sleep. I don't know the answer personally but this verse is clearly parable as literally it would make no sense at all. here is a link to a site I peieced together a lesson about this very subject on. We all reached the same conclusion.
My conclusion is that the lawgiver can always be toppled, that prisons can always be escaped, and that sleep is always cut short where consciousness remains.
And I shoot corpses. Or stab them. Or crush them. Or otherwise ensure that they are quite, quite dead. Related? Nope
(June 3, 2011 at 12:48 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: But the rest of us would believe if he did actually show one.
Don't lie. The unknown implies not God, the powerful implies not God, the mystical implies not God, that which claims to God be implies not the truth of the statement no matter what the unknown and powerful mysticism by which it demonstrates its might.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day