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Is there objective Truth?
RE: Is there objective Truth?
(October 24, 2016 at 10:00 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:
(October 24, 2016 at 9:44 am)Soldat Du Christ Wrote: You see sombody else replied with "Evolution did it", but a natural explanations cannot possibly justify immaterial truths, for example the laws of logic, morality. And you can't say it's a social construct, because those are inherantly subjective.These are objective standards we observe...
Now you could deny objectivity, like you do. Or embrace objectivity, and refuse to agknowledge the only rational explanation, under the guise of, maybe we will find out one day.

You will find that Jor takes a pragmatic approach, i.e. that human reason is apparently sufficient without access to absolutes. For her, people will never know if the Principle of Non-Contradiction is actually true. She claims that our brains evolved to believe the PNC to be true, though it might not be. At least, she is consistent.

You may be misrepresenting her but if and only if she actually believes that then I disagree with her there.

To me the principle of non-contradiction is ultimately the Law of Identity and that requires human minds to conceive of it but what it refers to is an absolute fact that whether humans exist to conceive of the following or not:

Whatever is, is and and whatever is not is not.

The truth of that is true without humans around to conceive of it. If the universe exists without us then it exists without us, without us needing to think of these tautologies.

Tautologies are hardly useful or helpful but they're certainly accurate. The law of identity is as absolute as math. Tautology is just math in words and math is just tautology in numbers. 0=0 is equivalent to A=A and "All bachelors are unmarried" is as absolute as "2+2=4".

Whether there is anyone to conceive of the concept or not... two objects and another two objects together is the same thing as four objects together because ultimately they mean the same thing. So 2+2=4 is an absolute truth without human existence.

Imagine humans never existed to conceive of bachelors or marriage.

Imagine there is an alien race that can get married.

Imagine they have no language and no words for "married" or "bachelors".

It's still absolutely true that all alien bachelors are unmarried because that is what those words mean and refer to when they are being used right now, in the same sense that two objects and two objects are four objects whether we use the words "two", "four", or "objects" or not (or the symbols "2" , "+" or "4" or not)... all bachelors are unmarried whether we use the words "bachelors" or "unmarried" or not. And whether we exist to use them or not.

Logical tautologies are as absolute as mathematics and for exactly the same reason.

Anyways, that's enough on that. You could easily be misrepresenting Jor. Not saying you're doing it intentionally, of course.
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Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 13, 2016 at 3:21 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 13, 2016 at 3:22 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 13, 2016 at 3:23 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 14, 2016 at 6:43 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by FatAndFaithless - October 13, 2016 at 3:23 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Napoléon - October 13, 2016 at 3:24 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by FatAndFaithless - October 13, 2016 at 3:29 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 13, 2016 at 7:53 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Pat Mustard - October 24, 2016 at 11:44 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 11:56 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 24, 2016 at 12:31 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Grandizer - October 13, 2016 at 3:25 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by The Grand Nudger - October 13, 2016 at 3:25 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - October 13, 2016 at 3:52 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 13, 2016 at 4:57 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 13, 2016 at 8:06 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 13, 2016 at 8:14 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Aractus - October 13, 2016 at 9:13 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 14, 2016 at 6:47 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - October 14, 2016 at 10:17 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Pat Mustard - October 24, 2016 at 11:46 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by bennyboy - October 24, 2016 at 1:10 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Pat Mustard - October 24, 2016 at 6:11 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by bennyboy - October 24, 2016 at 9:11 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Pat Mustard - October 25, 2016 at 8:17 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by bennyboy - October 25, 2016 at 3:17 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 1:55 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by The Grand Nudger - October 13, 2016 at 5:08 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by pocaracas - October 13, 2016 at 6:03 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by brewer - October 13, 2016 at 8:57 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 13, 2016 at 8:59 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by brewer - October 13, 2016 at 9:16 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by pocaracas - October 14, 2016 at 5:07 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Catholic_Lady - October 13, 2016 at 9:10 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 13, 2016 at 9:16 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 13, 2016 at 11:16 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 14, 2016 at 6:55 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 14, 2016 at 12:29 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by brewer - October 13, 2016 at 9:47 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by bennyboy - October 13, 2016 at 9:22 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 13, 2016 at 9:33 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by bennyboy - October 13, 2016 at 9:44 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 13, 2016 at 9:52 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by brewer - October 13, 2016 at 10:09 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 14, 2016 at 7:05 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by bennyboy - October 14, 2016 at 1:54 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - October 14, 2016 at 9:22 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 13, 2016 at 9:45 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by brewer - October 13, 2016 at 10:00 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Aractus - October 14, 2016 at 12:12 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 14, 2016 at 7:48 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 14, 2016 at 1:33 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 14, 2016 at 7:04 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 14, 2016 at 12:48 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 14, 2016 at 1:35 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 14, 2016 at 4:09 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 14, 2016 at 12:49 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 14, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 14, 2016 at 1:42 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Astreja - October 13, 2016 at 10:51 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 14, 2016 at 12:19 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 14, 2016 at 12:31 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by brewer - October 14, 2016 at 5:33 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Cato - October 14, 2016 at 12:35 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 14, 2016 at 12:35 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Gemini - October 14, 2016 at 1:29 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Aractus - October 14, 2016 at 4:59 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 14, 2016 at 6:18 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Aractus - October 15, 2016 at 1:43 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 15, 2016 at 12:00 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Aractus - October 18, 2016 at 6:38 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - October 18, 2016 at 9:42 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Mister Agenda - October 18, 2016 at 10:11 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - October 18, 2016 at 10:46 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Angrboda - October 18, 2016 at 1:22 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - October 18, 2016 at 1:45 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 18, 2016 at 2:37 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by bennyboy - October 18, 2016 at 5:23 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 18, 2016 at 5:45 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by bennyboy - October 20, 2016 at 7:40 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Angrboda - October 18, 2016 at 6:03 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by pocaracas - October 18, 2016 at 6:10 pm
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RE: Is there objective Truth? - by pocaracas - October 18, 2016 at 11:12 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 18, 2016 at 11:00 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Aractus - October 20, 2016 at 7:07 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by The Grand Nudger - October 14, 2016 at 6:27 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 14, 2016 at 6:42 am
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RE: Is there objective Truth? - by robvalue - October 14, 2016 at 7:12 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 14, 2016 at 7:43 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by pocaracas - October 14, 2016 at 8:39 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 14, 2016 at 1:18 pm
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RE: Is there objective Truth? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 14, 2016 at 9:37 am
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RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 14, 2016 at 1:33 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Angrboda - October 14, 2016 at 5:28 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 14, 2016 at 8:13 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 14, 2016 at 10:29 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Angrboda - October 14, 2016 at 10:47 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 15, 2016 at 12:39 am
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RE: Is there objective Truth? - by brewer - October 15, 2016 at 5:27 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by The Grand Nudger - October 16, 2016 at 6:51 am
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RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 16, 2016 at 9:39 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by chimp3 - October 16, 2016 at 2:22 pm
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RE: Is there objective Truth? - by brewer - October 16, 2016 at 3:32 pm
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RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Angrboda - October 23, 2016 at 6:37 pm
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RE: Is there objective Truth? - by bennyboy - October 24, 2016 at 12:48 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Angrboda - October 24, 2016 at 12:50 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 24, 2016 at 12:58 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Angrboda - October 24, 2016 at 1:04 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 24, 2016 at 1:07 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Grandizer - October 24, 2016 at 1:14 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Angrboda - October 24, 2016 at 1:20 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 24, 2016 at 1:31 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Angrboda - October 24, 2016 at 2:10 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 24, 2016 at 9:44 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - October 24, 2016 at 10:00 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 24, 2016 at 1:01 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by downbeatplumb - October 24, 2016 at 1:04 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 24, 2016 at 1:11 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Astreja - October 24, 2016 at 1:23 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by downbeatplumb - October 24, 2016 at 1:32 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 24, 2016 at 1:58 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Astreja - October 24, 2016 at 3:04 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - October 24, 2016 at 3:08 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Astreja - October 24, 2016 at 9:57 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - October 24, 2016 at 11:05 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Astreja - October 25, 2016 at 12:32 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 3:21 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 3:54 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Angrboda - October 24, 2016 at 5:18 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - October 24, 2016 at 5:28 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 24, 2016 at 11:13 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Grandizer - October 24, 2016 at 11:17 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 24, 2016 at 11:18 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Angrboda - October 25, 2016 at 12:22 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 25, 2016 at 11:14 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Pat Mustard - October 25, 2016 at 12:19 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Grandizer - October 25, 2016 at 12:20 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Pat Mustard - October 25, 2016 at 12:23 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 25, 2016 at 11:17 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Mister Agenda - October 25, 2016 at 3:36 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Grandizer - October 24, 2016 at 4:27 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 24, 2016 at 12:10 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by chimp3 - October 24, 2016 at 5:14 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by bennyboy - October 24, 2016 at 1:05 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 7:14 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 11:46 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 24, 2016 at 12:03 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 7:11 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 7:28 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - October 24, 2016 at 9:47 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 24, 2016 at 12:24 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 24, 2016 at 12:15 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by bennyboy - October 24, 2016 at 9:00 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 11:30 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by bennyboy - October 24, 2016 at 1:07 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 3:36 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 12:03 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 12:24 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 24, 2016 at 12:28 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 25, 2016 at 1:59 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - October 24, 2016 at 2:15 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by ApeNotKillApe - October 24, 2016 at 4:02 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 4:16 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 4:19 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 4:22 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 4:27 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by pocaracas - October 24, 2016 at 4:34 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 4:44 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by ApeNotKillApe - October 24, 2016 at 4:37 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 4:55 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 4:52 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by ApeNotKillApe - October 24, 2016 at 5:16 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 4:05 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 4:08 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 4:17 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by pocaracas - October 24, 2016 at 4:19 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by ApeNotKillApe - October 24, 2016 at 4:23 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 5:11 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 5:21 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by ApeNotKillApe - October 24, 2016 at 5:24 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 24, 2016 at 6:09 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 6:13 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 5:21 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 5:30 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by ApeNotKillApe - October 24, 2016 at 5:22 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 5:24 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by ApeNotKillApe - October 24, 2016 at 5:34 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 5:52 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by ApeNotKillApe - October 24, 2016 at 5:57 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 6:01 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by ApeNotKillApe - October 24, 2016 at 6:03 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 6:06 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by ApeNotKillApe - October 24, 2016 at 6:24 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 24, 2016 at 6:25 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by ApeNotKillApe - October 24, 2016 at 6:26 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 6:27 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by abaris - October 24, 2016 at 6:28 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 6:40 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by abaris - October 24, 2016 at 6:42 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 6:46 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by abaris - October 24, 2016 at 6:47 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 6:55 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by ApeNotKillApe - October 24, 2016 at 6:28 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 6:44 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by ApeNotKillApe - October 24, 2016 at 6:53 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 6:57 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by ApeNotKillApe - October 24, 2016 at 7:04 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 7:07 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 7:08 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 5:27 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 5:32 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 5:31 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 5:32 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 5:38 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 5:37 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 5:39 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 5:56 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 6:00 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 6:01 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Arkilogue - October 24, 2016 at 6:02 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2016 at 6:01 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by ApeNotKillApe - October 24, 2016 at 11:17 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Whateverist - October 25, 2016 at 2:15 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - October 25, 2016 at 2:20 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 25, 2016 at 2:23 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2016 at 3:41 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 25, 2016 at 8:51 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 25, 2016 at 8:21 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Grandizer - October 25, 2016 at 9:01 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 25, 2016 at 11:24 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Grandizer - October 25, 2016 at 11:34 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by bennyboy - October 26, 2016 at 12:22 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2016 at 11:55 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2016 at 12:24 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by downbeatplumb - October 26, 2016 at 6:44 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by chimp3 - October 26, 2016 at 6:59 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 26, 2016 at 4:59 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by pocaracas - October 26, 2016 at 5:56 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by ohreally - October 26, 2016 at 6:09 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by chimp3 - October 26, 2016 at 6:45 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Grandizer - October 26, 2016 at 7:48 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by downbeatplumb - October 27, 2016 at 12:18 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Mister Agenda - October 27, 2016 at 12:53 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Pat Mustard - October 27, 2016 at 3:40 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 28, 2016 at 4:12 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by ApeNotKillApe - October 26, 2016 at 5:06 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by bennyboy - October 26, 2016 at 8:27 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - October 26, 2016 at 8:28 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Mister Agenda - October 27, 2016 at 12:06 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by bennyboy - October 27, 2016 at 8:13 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by maestroanth - October 28, 2016 at 7:35 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by bennyboy - November 3, 2016 at 5:27 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by theologian - November 3, 2016 at 3:23 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Pat Mustard - November 3, 2016 at 5:16 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by bennyboy - November 3, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by theologian - November 6, 2016 at 1:30 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Pat Mustard - November 7, 2016 at 5:39 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Angrboda - November 3, 2016 at 10:49 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Sal - November 3, 2016 at 6:21 am
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - November 3, 2016 at 4:16 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - November 3, 2016 at 4:17 pm
RE: Is there objective Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - November 4, 2016 at 7:48 am

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