(October 24, 2016 at 5:21 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:(October 24, 2016 at 5:16 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: More what I meant was that an idea is just a series of electrical impulses and chemicals, which is ultimately just electrons buzzing around atoms, like everything else.
The emergent phenomena of reason and consciousness that results is what gives it meaning, like everything else.
Oh I agree with all that.
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(October 24, 2016 at 5:21 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: I can think of only 3 possible beginning states:
There are only two.
Quote:Nothing,
Nope.
Quote: finite something,
Yes.
Quote: or infinite something.
Yes.
Quote: Can you think of anymore?
Nope. Nor can you.
P.S. Nothing is not a state you thought of.
It is in the way I imagined it as an infinite space with no things in it. But true absence of all qualities including infinite magnitude of space is unimaginable.
Similarly, an infinite block of absolute matter is not physically drawable, engrave-able, image-able. But it can be imagined.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder