RE: Is there objective Truth?
October 25, 2016 at 11:14 am
(This post was last modified: October 25, 2016 at 11:18 am by Soldat Du Christ.)
(October 25, 2016 at 12:22 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(October 24, 2016 at 11:13 pm)Soldat Du Christ Wrote: After all other options have been rendered impossible, what remains is the answer.
You haven't rendered all other options impossible, only those options known, so this remains an argument from ignorance.
(October 24, 2016 at 11:13 pm)Soldat Du Christ Wrote: The natural world cannot justify its own existence.
You were asked to explain what you mean by this already. If you're appealing to some extreme version of the PSR then say so. Otherwise this is just a strange and unrelated claim. What does it mean to 'justify' the existent?
(October 24, 2016 at 11:13 pm)Soldat Du Christ Wrote: Absolutes, moral duties, immaterial laws, work much the same way, demanding a trancedent cause. Something above and beyond the natural order
So you claim. I need more than just your claim to believe you. So far all I have from you is an argument from ignorance and a just-so story.
What i mean by, the natural world cannot justify it's own existence is; nothing in the natural order of things can explain how it came to be. For one example, there is no possible natural explanation for the universe's origin. It's been this way for years and the more we discover, the more it eliminates the possibilities of a past eternal universe. Saying if you give us time we will find out, is a cop out, allowing one to avoid following the evidence where it leads.
Now if you do not care to find the answers, if you like pick and choose what is important for you to know, and even worse reject the rest; than consider yourself unreasonable by definition.
(October 25, 2016 at 8:17 am)Tazzycorn Wrote:(October 24, 2016 at 9:11 pm)bennyboy Wrote: You should care whether you can support your position. And you can't.
Ken Ham trying to denounce evolution because "nobody has ever seen DNA mutate".
Your position is false, it is demonstrably wrong and is delusional. Deal with it.
Correction... We've never observed genetic mutation adding NEW genetic information.