I haven't read this whole thread yet but having reviewed the first page, the following four words leap to mind:
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If we can agree we live in a natural universe governed by predictable laws and best understood through science and reason, the rest is just abstract philosophical musings that have little impact on our real lives.
The whole "hard" atheism vs. "soft" atheism vs. agnosticism vs. pantheism vs. deism argument given our struggles with religion today is a waste of valuable bandwidth. Let's at least wait until Islamo-Christianity is tossed into the scrapheap of dead mythologies before we revisit this issue.
Just my suggestion, FWIW.
Tempest
in
a
teapot
If we can agree we live in a natural universe governed by predictable laws and best understood through science and reason, the rest is just abstract philosophical musings that have little impact on our real lives.
The whole "hard" atheism vs. "soft" atheism vs. agnosticism vs. pantheism vs. deism argument given our struggles with religion today is a waste of valuable bandwidth. Let's at least wait until Islamo-Christianity is tossed into the scrapheap of dead mythologies before we revisit this issue.
Just my suggestion, FWIW.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
