RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions
November 4, 2016 at 9:14 pm
(This post was last modified: November 4, 2016 at 9:24 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(October 26, 2016 at 1:23 am)FallentoReason Wrote:-aaaaaand there's the turd from whence this cloud of flies sprang, lest we forget. I guess all this bullshit was alot easier than following through on that steaming pile.(October 26, 2016 at 12:58 am)Rhythm Wrote: Why? More god koolaid. People think and say things like "if god existed, the world would be more or less of x" without ever explaining why...wihout ever voicing all of those silent assumptions. Allow me to propose an alternative..no matter what god is, or isn't..the world would be exactly -as- it is.
It's not that simple. God being god, he can make whatever proposition true. In the universe next door, the resident God said 2 + 2 would equal 5, and they tell me it's logical over there.
Yeah, it is that simple. The universe as it is, is a brute fact, the status and qualitative attributes of a hypothetical god, to be exceedingly generous, is the open end of the question. Whatever those attributes are or may have been..the universe is -still- as it is. If we found out that you list of attributes was wrong, whatever they were, and that another list of attributes was more accurate - think about that, that assumes that we also found out there really was a god...the universe wouldn't suddenly recombine itself before us to fit this new, altered, and more accurate set of attributes. Even if there were a god, and it could set whatever it wanted about a hypothetical universe (totally shitcanning the idea that any specific attribute of the universe -had- to be x by reference to a god all by it;s onesies)..in this -actual- universe, what it set is not open to asshattery, it's still as it is.
You left yourself no room to manouver. None. That's what happens when we invoke goblygoop. While it must have seemed, at the time..to you...to b a way to evade logical thought.....it was actually a noose for an illogical idea that you not only twisted, but threw over the post, wrapped around the neck of your idea..and then pushed off the platform.
/ shrug
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