RE: On Logic and Alternate Universes
November 6, 2016 at 12:48 pm
(This post was last modified: November 6, 2016 at 12:53 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
It -doesn't- have to hold, the ops hypothetical explicitly states a universe with different laws, I'm trying to split the baby with you, and asking you the question by reference to an example in which it does hold, even if it doesn't have to.
There absolutely can be and -are- irrational hypotheticals. I think that the OP hypothetical is one of them. Lay that aside, because it's not what the op asks anyway, the op asks whether or not the rules of that hypothetical can be logical. Not whether or not such a universe can or does exist, whether or not such a hypothetical universe is logical (and agan, OP explicitly states that this iniverse is -not- a logical universe as we would call a universe logical, it;s different, different rules, different outcomes based upon those rules)
- I think, it;s a simple matter of definition. Even -if- such a universe can or did exist, the rules would not be logical rules, they would be "x" rules, as explicitly stated in the hypothetical by reference to a different universe, with different rules. It;s not an isssue, to my mind, whther or not such a universe can or does exist, or whether our logical laws hold in all universes, that is an irrelevance...even if both statements, and we both agree that they are true -outside of the hypothetical-, are true.
There absolutely can be and -are- irrational hypotheticals. I think that the OP hypothetical is one of them. Lay that aside, because it's not what the op asks anyway, the op asks whether or not the rules of that hypothetical can be logical. Not whether or not such a universe can or does exist, whether or not such a hypothetical universe is logical (and agan, OP explicitly states that this iniverse is -not- a logical universe as we would call a universe logical, it;s different, different rules, different outcomes based upon those rules)
- I think, it;s a simple matter of definition. Even -if- such a universe can or did exist, the rules would not be logical rules, they would be "x" rules, as explicitly stated in the hypothetical by reference to a different universe, with different rules. It;s not an isssue, to my mind, whther or not such a universe can or does exist, or whether our logical laws hold in all universes, that is an irrelevance...even if both statements, and we both agree that they are true -outside of the hypothetical-, are true.
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