RE: On Logic and Alternate Universes
November 6, 2016 at 1:53 pm
(This post was last modified: November 6, 2016 at 1:56 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Im telling you -that it doesn;t have to...-in the hypothetical-...because the hypothetical is a different universe, with with different rules, where different thigs happen and are true, despite being..well...you know, different. Where 2+2 does equal 5, even if 2+2 equals 4 here, for reasons unknown to us but very loosely given an explanation...as the effect, in that universe, of adding two things to two things.
I agree with you, that the law of identity holds -in all logical universes..and I don;t think that an illogical universe exists. The hypothetical universe simply is such a universe, by brute force of description. Whether or not it exists or can exist, in actuality, is not the question, not my point, not the op's point.
The op wants to know whether or not, whatever the laws of that universe are, they can be correctly termed "logical"...and in that, even if the law of identity does hold - which it doesn't have to, because, you know, different universe where things are different...I say no. I'm content to let different hypothetical universes be different, and insist that if we're going to consider them we use terms to help differentiate them -so- that we can consider them. Even if that universe -does- hold to identity, that is not sufficient condition, imo, to call it logical, because assuming identity, we still have the problem of arriving at two disparate sums from an identical mathematical operation -between- universes while the same rule holds -within- universes. Obviously, something else is askance, it;s -different, not logical...."x"ical.
I agree with you, that the law of identity holds -in all logical universes..and I don;t think that an illogical universe exists. The hypothetical universe simply is such a universe, by brute force of description. Whether or not it exists or can exist, in actuality, is not the question, not my point, not the op's point.
The op wants to know whether or not, whatever the laws of that universe are, they can be correctly termed "logical"...and in that, even if the law of identity does hold - which it doesn't have to, because, you know, different universe where things are different...I say no. I'm content to let different hypothetical universes be different, and insist that if we're going to consider them we use terms to help differentiate them -so- that we can consider them. Even if that universe -does- hold to identity, that is not sufficient condition, imo, to call it logical, because assuming identity, we still have the problem of arriving at two disparate sums from an identical mathematical operation -between- universes while the same rule holds -within- universes. Obviously, something else is askance, it;s -different, not logical...."x"ical.
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