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Scientific evidence of God by an atheist (Where mankind is one likely type of God)
RE: Scientific evidence of God by an atheist (Where mankind is one likely type of God)
(November 6, 2016 at 9:23 am)Mathilda Wrote:
(November 4, 2016 at 10:05 pm)ProgrammingGodJordan Wrote: Quite the longueur.
Albeit, such a profound pasage of yours , changes not the fact, that exponential technological change occurs, and therein, kurzweil's graphs entail such a transition.


He's a media scientist only out to promote himself to get funding by over selling AI and relying on a team of people to do the work for him. He's been talking about reaching super human intelligence of AI in 2040 for years now based on really a dodgy understanding of how the brain works and assuming that Moore's Law will carry on forever. I lump him in with the likes of Kevin Warwick and Sam Harris. In other words, he sells fantasies.
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Each human is part of a population that has evolved over time. Intelligence requires being embodied in an environment, and that takes time. 


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Maybe if you had actually read what I said then you would have realised that this exponential technological change will probably not continue forever. You are doing the classic mistake of extrapolating a curve.

May I interest you in a pyramid scheme? Profits have been increasing exponentially.

[*A]
Your prior postulation  was but invalid; for:

[0] 
It is likely that Kurzweil's/Sam's accomplishments exceed yours.

[1]
Brain based models, (that approximate the human neuronal cycle (10^15 flops), are on Moore's Law, likely at 2020's horizon.

See IBM's neurosynaptic chip. 
Intriguing: IBM's phase change chip.


[*B*]

Such non-human models are not bound in the profound [non-trivial macroscale time] trial-error regime
Data scientists have this day, generated brain based models that exceed/equal human intellect on cognitive tasks/task groups, ranging from language translation to disease diagnosis. Such advances, at the juncture of said data scientists, DID NOT require MACROSCALE scopes of time.

(November 6, 2016 at 9:39 am)chimp3 Wrote:
(November 6, 2016 at 12:06 am)ProgrammingGodJordan Wrote: Incorrect.

Simplification: 

[0] The theistically-hypothesized God entails a particular property [the ability to generate non trivial intelligence, ie human intellect]


[1] Mankind is an observable sequence.

[2] Mankind shall likely encode a particular property; [whence mankind shall likely generate artificial intellect that shall exceed the net intelligence of its species]



[3] At the compaction of the theistically-theoirized God, amidst statistic [2], God is thereafter properly scientifically statistically definable as some likely non-omniscient, non-omnipotent entity, with the ability to generate non-trivial intelligence...
Gods do not exist. People created their gods. Therefore , their gods are no more intelligent than they are. People creating AI are simply people. We have already invented computers that play chess better than the best human players. But to embellish that accomplishment by bestowing godlike status to the programmers is a comic book super hero fantasy.


You have blatantly ignored a particular factum; there exists not any opinionated sequence of mine.


Simply, mankind shall likely satisfy a particular predominantly-theistic-bound God property; namely the ability to generate non-trivial intelligence [ie artificial general intelligence]. (Where separate theist-hypothesized properties, [omniscience, omnipotence...]  are non-evident on scientifically observed statistics)

Thusly, I need not BESTOW any quantity.
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Messages In This Thread
RE: Scientific evidence of God by an atheist - by Minimalist - November 3, 2016 at 11:02 pm
RE: Scientific evidence of God by an atheist (Where mankind is one likely type of God) - by ProgrammingGodJordan - November 6, 2016 at 5:27 pm
He is cray - by Edwardo Piet - November 7, 2016 at 8:11 am
why - by ohreally - November 10, 2016 at 1:56 pm

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