RE: On Logic and Alternate Universes
November 6, 2016 at 7:40 pm
(This post was last modified: November 6, 2016 at 7:48 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
As has already been explained to you, including the law of identitity does not mean that the rest of the laws involved could not be different. A different universe -can be- different, even if there are some similarities. Such as, for example, the law of identity held, and in that universe, because of the differences of -other- laws, the identity of the sum of 2+2....was 5.
Obviously such a universe can by hypothesized, I just did it.
So, again.
If such a universe existed. If such laws existed in that universe as to make such a thing true (which have been proposed...the goggdidit magical popping into existence of a 5th thing when two things are added to two things) would it make sense or be useful to call such rules logical, or would they deserve their own term?
Whether or not such rules do exist, or can exist, by reference to what we call logic..irrelevant Ham. Completely irrelevant. Not what you're being asked. It's just a thought experiment. 2+2=5 -does not- violate the law of identity, it violates the law of identity -as it relates to quantities and their relationships..in this universe....but we're talking about a different universe, capiche? It is, in my example, an explicit assumption of the law of identty as it relates to the relationships between quantities -in that universe-. Obviously, something must be different, bewteen here and there, since the answer is 4 here, and 5 there. What's -not- different, is the law of identity itself.
So try, try really hard, not to bicker again, over that...
Obviously such a universe can by hypothesized, I just did it.
So, again.
If such a universe existed. If such laws existed in that universe as to make such a thing true (which have been proposed...the goggdidit magical popping into existence of a 5th thing when two things are added to two things) would it make sense or be useful to call such rules logical, or would they deserve their own term?
Whether or not such rules do exist, or can exist, by reference to what we call logic..irrelevant Ham. Completely irrelevant. Not what you're being asked. It's just a thought experiment. 2+2=5 -does not- violate the law of identity, it violates the law of identity -as it relates to quantities and their relationships..in this universe....but we're talking about a different universe, capiche? It is, in my example, an explicit assumption of the law of identty as it relates to the relationships between quantities -in that universe-. Obviously, something must be different, bewteen here and there, since the answer is 4 here, and 5 there. What's -not- different, is the law of identity itself.
So try, try really hard, not to bicker again, over that...
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