RE: On Logic and Alternate Universes
November 6, 2016 at 8:29 pm
(This post was last modified: November 6, 2016 at 8:34 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
2+2=4 refers to an observed behavior between quanties in this universe. The hypothetical evades that behavior. The observation is different. The law of identity, applied in either case, will apply to whatever behavior is expressed.
So, here, because 2+2 -is- 4, it cannot be otherwise. It cannot be what it is and what it is not.
There, 2+2 -is- 5, it cannot be otherwise. It cannot be what it is and what it is not.
This s not a contradiction to the law of identity, the law of identity is being equally applied to contradictory -universes-. So, even if you insist that a different universe with different rules -must have- the law of identity..it does not help to tell us why or if we can call those different rules logical rules. It can be, and has been applied. Your objection has been satisfied, and the answer is still 5. It; application alone does not make the rules of this universe the same as the rules of ur universe, one has to assume that alot of other different shit must be going on to express itslelf in that behavior even if the law of identoity is in full swng with reference to what -is- in that universe.
Your objection, still, isn't to the point of contention anyway,....which is whether or not the rules of a universe which would make that true...just assume it, stop overthinking it and assume it....can be called logical.
(I hope you appreciate that the hypothetical we've been discussing isn't even my baby, I disagree with it, and am still advocating it for no other reason than to get some strictly rational objections worked up to -it-, and not some other question.)
So, here, because 2+2 -is- 4, it cannot be otherwise. It cannot be what it is and what it is not.
There, 2+2 -is- 5, it cannot be otherwise. It cannot be what it is and what it is not.
This s not a contradiction to the law of identity, the law of identity is being equally applied to contradictory -universes-. So, even if you insist that a different universe with different rules -must have- the law of identity..it does not help to tell us why or if we can call those different rules logical rules. It can be, and has been applied. Your objection has been satisfied, and the answer is still 5. It; application alone does not make the rules of this universe the same as the rules of ur universe, one has to assume that alot of other different shit must be going on to express itslelf in that behavior even if the law of identoity is in full swng with reference to what -is- in that universe.
Your objection, still, isn't to the point of contention anyway,....which is whether or not the rules of a universe which would make that true...just assume it, stop overthinking it and assume it....can be called logical.
(I hope you appreciate that the hypothetical we've been discussing isn't even my baby, I disagree with it, and am still advocating it for no other reason than to get some strictly rational objections worked up to -it-, and not some other question.)
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