RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic.
November 8, 2016 at 4:33 am
(This post was last modified: November 8, 2016 at 4:39 am by Jesster.)
(November 8, 2016 at 4:27 am)TheHuxleyAgnostic Wrote:(November 8, 2016 at 3:57 am)Jesster Wrote: Nope. You either believe something or you do not. There are two separate claims that you are confusing and you've created a false dichotomy out of them. There is a claim that there is a god. There is another claim that there is not a god.
A theist will believe that there is a god.
An atheist will not accept that belief.
You can also accept or not accept the belief that there is no god. Either one can be an atheist.
I neither accept the belief that there is a god or the claim that there is not a god.
I haven't created a false dichotomy. I presented 3 possible options, when there are 3 possible options. Presenting only 2 options, when there are actually 3 options, is a false dichotomy.
Objectively, the corner store is either open or closed. I can believe either, or I can have no idea, and have no belief, either way.
Objectively, I'm either drinking a Coke, or I'm not. You can believe either, or, since you have no clue, you can have no belief, either way.
There are no rules on questions and at what point to label. You're just choosing to only offer two options, before labelling.
Ok, last post to clear up what I meant. Then all you get from me is eye rolls as I lose interest.
Believing X to be true and not accepting the belief that X is true (disbelief) are opposite ends of one scale. You are one or the other. This is like theism vs atheism.
Believing X to be false and not accepting the belief that X is false (disbelief) are opposite ends on an entirely different scale. You are one or the other.This an entirely different question.
Disbelief = having no belief
That prefix is Latin, by the way
(November 8, 2016 at 4:27 am)TheHuxleyAgnostic Wrote: Yes, I'm sure it's much easier to just assert that people of a certain time put the word together a certain way, without any evidence to the contrary.
I don't believe you. Get over it.