RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic.
November 8, 2016 at 1:41 pm
(This post was last modified: November 8, 2016 at 1:42 pm by Whateverist.)
I think I welcomed you already in one of the old agnosticism threads you necro'd last night. But you're still welcome.
English doesn't seem the right language for you. With French you could appeal to the academy to decide the matter. English is a mongrel language in which the meaning and use of words drift endlessly.
But I wonder which argument you are most keen to make? That atheos and theos have the same primacy, each evolving in its own right? Funny to imagine a use for "atheos" = not of the gods without a pre-existing "theos" = of the gods.
Earlier you said “I haven't created a false dichotomy. I presented 3 possible options, when there are 3 possible options. Presenting only 2 options, when there are actually 3 options, is a false dichotomy.“ So you've created, as many have already pointed out, a non-necessary trichotomy. Not believing that gods exist is not the same thing as believing they are non-existent. I don't know whether aliens exist but it certainly is not true that I believe they are non-existent.
The bottom line is we are all free to make our own choices of how to describe our beliefs. I claim "agnosticism". I claim "atheism". I claim "ignosticism". And I claim apatheism. Each of those describes my regard for various claims made regarding 'gods'. So I leave you to your pure agnosticism. I definitely do not claim that.
English doesn't seem the right language for you. With French you could appeal to the academy to decide the matter. English is a mongrel language in which the meaning and use of words drift endlessly.
But I wonder which argument you are most keen to make? That atheos and theos have the same primacy, each evolving in its own right? Funny to imagine a use for "atheos" = not of the gods without a pre-existing "theos" = of the gods.
Earlier you said “I haven't created a false dichotomy. I presented 3 possible options, when there are 3 possible options. Presenting only 2 options, when there are actually 3 options, is a false dichotomy.“ So you've created, as many have already pointed out, a non-necessary trichotomy. Not believing that gods exist is not the same thing as believing they are non-existent. I don't know whether aliens exist but it certainly is not true that I believe they are non-existent.
The bottom line is we are all free to make our own choices of how to describe our beliefs. I claim "agnosticism". I claim "atheism". I claim "ignosticism". And I claim apatheism. Each of those describes my regard for various claims made regarding 'gods'. So I leave you to your pure agnosticism. I definitely do not claim that.
