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Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic.
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RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic.
(November 8, 2016 at 12:41 pm)TheHuxleyAgnostic Wrote:
(November 8, 2016 at 5:15 am)Irrational Wrote: Your wording confused me.

If I have a belief that "God exists" is true, then I also have a belief that "God does not exist" is false.

But I get what you're saying now.

Like Jesster was saying a belief is either on or off. My point is that more than a single belief/non-belief is in play, based on an objective question, rather than being dictated by a single subjective question. 

Objectively: the cat is alive (not dead) or that the cat is dead (not alive). Which means people have a few different options for what they subjectively believe. 

X = the cat is alive

Do you believe X is true?
Do you believe X is false? 

YN: alive-ist (belief the cat is alive, no belief the cat is dead)
NY: dead-ist (belief the cat is dead, no belief the cat is alive)
NN: agnostic (a person who is unwilling to commit to an opinion about something; no belief the cat is alive, or dead)

In some rare cases, you might find yourself a Schrodinger...

YY: Schrodinger (belief the cat is both alive and dead)

Sure, you can dictate a single question, as Jesster does ... saying "the question is" ... and, only offer two options, but that's the false dichotomy. 

Do you believe X is true?

Y: aliveists + Schrodinger
N: deadists + agnostics

Being a deadist and being an agnostic are two different things. It's nonsensical to consider an agnostic a weak/negative/soft deadist, or a deadist a strong/positive/hard agnostic.

Well, we can make this even more complicated by including questions of knowledge. Do you know X is true? Do you know X is false?

Also, do you believe X is probably true? Do you believe X is probably false?
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RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Jesster - November 8, 2016 at 2:19 am
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Jesster - November 8, 2016 at 2:51 am
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Jesster - November 8, 2016 at 3:21 am
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Jesster - November 8, 2016 at 3:45 am
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Grandizer - November 8, 2016 at 3:56 am
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Grandizer - November 8, 2016 at 4:37 am
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Grandizer - November 8, 2016 at 5:15 am
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Grandizer - November 8, 2016 at 6:04 pm
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Jesster - November 8, 2016 at 3:57 am
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Jesster - November 8, 2016 at 4:33 am
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Jesster - November 8, 2016 at 4:00 am
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Jesster - November 8, 2016 at 4:17 am
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Jesster - November 8, 2016 at 4:06 am
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Grandizer - November 8, 2016 at 4:18 am
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Jesster - November 8, 2016 at 4:19 am
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Jesster - November 8, 2016 at 4:53 am
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Jesster - November 8, 2016 at 4:58 am
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by brewer - November 8, 2016 at 11:58 am
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by brewer - November 8, 2016 at 12:55 pm
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Jesster - November 8, 2016 at 5:49 pm
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Sal - November 8, 2016 at 12:32 pm
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Minimalist - November 8, 2016 at 12:45 pm
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Whateverist - November 8, 2016 at 1:41 pm
RE: Hi, an agnostic here ... just agnostic. - by Jehanne - November 8, 2016 at 10:18 pm

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