RE: If there is a creator, so what?
November 15, 2016 at 5:08 am
(This post was last modified: November 15, 2016 at 5:09 am by Ignorant.)
(November 15, 2016 at 4:34 am)robvalue Wrote: Thanks for explaining but I still have no idea what you mean. Or rather, it just seems your idea of god is in tautologies/semantics. I don't see what it has to do with a creator. [1] It doesn't sound like it actually exists as anything other than abstract concepts. [2]
Sure, learning about my wife may affect how I interact with other women. [3]
1) Well that is a different problem than your original question, "Why should I care?" Now you are disputing the meaning of a creator, not whether or not you should care about a meaning.
Even so, perhaps your understanding of "a creator" has been influenced too much by all of the poor conceptions of god you have already rejected?
Think: if god IS "being" (i.e. the action), and your specific "being-Rob" somehow taps into the act of "being", then that act (i.e. god) is creating you at every moment in which you "are being" Rob. AND you are creating yourself through your own participation in that act.
If "being" is subsistent, then all other sorts of things get their ability to "be-at-all" from that subsistence.
2) God doesn't actually exist like anything else. It isn't a "thing" in the same way hydrogen or a human is a thing. God is act, the most general sort of act possible: "to be". That thing is being a rock. That thing is being a tree. God is being "to be". Therefore, anything that "is", shares, somehow, in "to be" (i.e. god).
Your original question only addressed why it would matter if such a god existed, not whether or not such a god makes sense to you. Given your atheism, that it would not make sense was implied.
3) Good. But not just learning about your wife, but also about the nature of your relationship with her, right? In other words, your relationship with her is what makes her, and just her, your wife. Your relationship with her is different than your relationship with the Queen. So learning about the relationship you have with your wife, the marriage relationship in general, etc. are things about which I think you'd care without much explanation.
In a similar way:
If it is true that your-being-Rob IS a relation of some sort with god (i.e. some kind of participation with subsistent-being), then I think you'd care to know about a) that relation and 2) the god with whom you essentially and existentially relate