(November 15, 2016 at 12:46 pm)pocaracas Wrote: The irony is back! With a vengeance!
(November 15, 2016 at 12:41 pm)Edward John Wrote: Again, all you are doing is offering your opinion.You too!!
(November 15, 2016 at 12:41 pm)Edward John Wrote: Why should any of us in here adopt your position, your opinion, as the best representation of reality?Yeah, why would any of us adopt YOUR position, YOUR opinion, as the best representation of reality?
(November 15, 2016 at 12:41 pm)Edward John Wrote: The Big Bang, for example is essentially the claim that the universe came into existence spontaneously in the distant past. I assume that you acknowledge the Big Bang. If I am wrong, please let me know. Nevertheless, how would you explain the cause of this sudden initial "bang"? You cannot and no one can.
If no one can, then the honest answer is "no one can. No one knows."
But is that what you propose we do? NO!
So, you are, inherently, being dishonest.
(November 15, 2016 at 12:41 pm)Edward John Wrote: Does any scientist know the physical properties of existence before the universe began? No. Can something bring itself into existence if it does not already exist? No. The universe began and it had a cause. How did it begin and why? No explanations can be offered with any evidence to explain the conditions before the Big Bang. Yet, people, scientists and atheists included, merely accept that an unknown, unexplainable cause brought the universe into existence. Isn't this faith? Where is the proof?
Are you seriously wanting proof for something that is admittedly unknown and unexplained by science?
And you think I'm arrogant?!
How about YOUR position, YOUR opinion, huh? Where's the proof?
Atheism has indeed failed. Please tell me how you know you're atheism is true. Please tell me why any of us should adopt your opinion as the truth.
