RE: How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
November 15, 2016 at 1:26 pm
(This post was last modified: November 15, 2016 at 3:01 pm by Mister Agenda.)
Edward John Wrote:pocaracas Wrote:No, you came to this forum.
Obviously, you want to share something with us.
so...
YOU tell me how you know your belief is true... which, btw, I accept that your belief is true. Just like my atheism is true. It is true that my mind has no belief in any god, hence practices atheism. It also seems to be true that your mind has a belief for a particular god, hence practices that belief.
And, also, YOU tell me why any of us should adopt your opinion as the truth.
That's just your opinion. I'm not interested in mere opinions. Please demonstrate that your atheistic opinion is a proper representation of reality. If you can't, then your just a person of faith.
Atheism is not an opinion, it is a state of mind. The state of not having a belief that any supernatural deities are literally real. Atheists have opinions, but atheism is not itself an opinion. Neither is theism, which is the opposite state of mind. It is a fact that you are a theist, and it is a fact that I am an atheist. That what evidence there is for the existence of God is sufficient or insufficient is an opinion that largely depends on how high you raise the bar of skepticism before you'll believe it is true. I'm an atheist because I am a skeptic. I used to believe all sorts of things, just about everything: ESP, ghosts, ancient astronauts, miracles, you name it. After seeing some of those things faked, I became more skeptical, and developed an interest in critical thinking and skepticism. The belief in God was one of the last low-evidence things I stopped believing in, because I was raised to think that belief was critically important, but there was only so long that I could apply a different standard to that belief than I applied to all the other ones.
It's my opinion that you have not made your case to a degree that would sufficiently justify rational acceptance of it. How do you think your employment of the tu quoque fallacy of 'you're just stating opinions!' is going to change that? For someone desperate to convert me, you seem awfully attached to your pre-chosen approach of thinking you don't have to learn anything from us or believe anything we say in order to reach us. Wouldn't someone who really wants to reach me treat me with love and respect rather than condescension and contempt?
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.