RE: On Logic and Alternate Universes
November 17, 2016 at 10:24 am
(This post was last modified: November 17, 2016 at 10:32 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Here, let me just slide right past all the shit that gets you so worked up. I think we can do that and make progress. Particularly in that i can isolate this attempt to answer the question from all the rest.
It's the bolded bit, that the question is actually asking you. So, you've got a "yes and no" answer, on your hands.
Quote:If they're possible, they're logical. Not in all senses, no.b-mine
It's the bolded bit, that the question is actually asking you. So, you've got a "yes and no" answer, on your hands.
Quote:I don't mean they're realistic or reasonable. I mean if they're logically possible they're, logically, logically possible.Right, and this wasn't the question, which is why I've been trying to steer you past it. Logical possibility can only refer to what we know, and our logical laws. Patently useless in the hypothetical of more or different laws.
Quote:It doesn't matter if they're different logical laws, if they're logical laws they're, logically, logical laws.This begs the question....the question being "are those laws, whatever they are, logical laws" Answering that question with "if they're logical laws then they're logical laws"......doesn't quite cut it, does it?
Quote:But they can only exist if they obey logical absolutes.[color=#333333]Not the question. Nor, honestly, anything a reasonable person should claim. Logical laws do not proscribe what can or cannot exist. They simply describe what we can and cannot rationally infer about -whatever exists-. Reason isn;t a force exerting an effect on the world, making things fall into line, preventing things from being.
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