If there is a creator, so what?

[Ignorant]

It's not an issue of speed You aren't moving at all, Igno.  Strange, because you had no such trouble in mounting arguments for gods existence.

It's clear that you thought this would just become apparent if you could successfully argue for a god. [1] Well.  It hasn't.  You're going to need to articulate it at some point, stalling is uninformative. [2] Can I offer you some advice?  The philosophy which you're trying to use....it was never meant as an argument for god -or- why anyone should care.  You can't get there, from here. [3]

If you want to employ a thomistic framework....well, there -is- an appeal in that framework as to why we should care.  Why don't you just use that?  Perhaps something from Contra Gentiles?  Or Q1 article 8 of Theologica II?  Hell, you were espousing it in the morality thread...you know about it.....why is it absent?  What;s this full and whole human life bullshit, lol? [4]

1) Is that clear? I took the existence of god for granted in the thread, and then tried to describe how it is related to everything else, especially us. I said before, either that is meaningful for you or not. Kinda like oxygen. There is no "should" be meaningful. There is only, "This means that. Do you care?" IF you say "no", all I can do is try to describe it in a different way, in the hopes it will be meaningful. If you don't find it worth caring about, then oh well. What do you want me to say? If you tell me from the onset that "if it exists in the way Catholics say it exists, then I certainly do not care about it." Why exactly do you want me to describe the Catholic god? You've already made it plainly clear that you don't care about it. What do you want from me?

2) What am I stalling? You've already given me your final answer. You. Don't. Care.

3) I know it wasn't meant as an argument for god. I know it wasn't meant for an argument for why anyone "should" care.

4) The term 'happiness' wasn't exactly well received in that thread, so I chose to use different terminology to express the same idea. You think there is any relationship between Thomas's account of god as subsistent-being, god as subsistent-goodness, and man's last end? Remember? I'm trying to take your advice:

People who don't believe what you believe might hear the things you say differently than you do.