(November 17, 2016 at 5:11 am)Ignorant Wrote:(November 15, 2016 at 6:40 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Okay so if god exists how do we get to step 1?
IF the Christian god as I understand it is real, then its relation to you means that you-being-fully-human will become you-being-divinely-human (i.e. the divine relation with you changes from participation to union, whatever that means).
Seems to me that you might be underestimating what counts as fully human. There is definitely a cultural component to that. Someone entirely ruled by a pigs-at-the-trough mindset (like Trump) is lacking in his humanity. I don't see why we should characterize a more cultured mindset as divine rather than simple more humane. This is purely semantics of course but I see no justification for that split.
(November 17, 2016 at 5:11 am)Ignorant Wrote: Are you now asking me how would we otherwise arrive at the knowledge that there is indeed a creator?
I'm sure that is what many of us would like to know. Not that we can get there too, mind you, but because we expect your justification will be lacking. Good luck.