(June 13, 2011 at 2:30 pm)Epimethean Wrote: The trinity bullshit is just evidence that polytheism was still interesting enough to sprinkle in a dose.
Here's how I think they came up with it:
"How is it that Jesus can forgive sins? And why does the jealous, attention hungry god of the OT suddenly need an intercessor?"
"Because Jesus IS God"
"If Jesus is God, how can God be an intercessor with himself? 'No man comes to the Father except through Me' becomes 'No man comes to Me except through Me.' This seems like a tautology."
"Um, well, you see Jesus is 'God the Son' who is a separate being from 'God the father'."
"So there are two or three gods then? I thought that was strictly forbidden by Jewish theology."
"No, no, there's only one god"
"But you just said there were..."
"You have to understand that God the Son is the same god as God the Father. They are separate persons but are of the same substance."
"WTF does that even mean?"
"Human minds can't comprehend it. It must be taken on faith."
"So, in the final analysis, is Jesus God or is Jesus not God."
"Yes."
"What?"
"When Jesus is praying to God, that's when he's fully human. When Jesus is forgiving sins, that's when he's fully divine."
"This isn't just a sloppy fix to the theological conundrum that must inevitably spring from merging strict Jewish monotheism with pagan concepts of redemption through faith in an intercessor deity is it?"
"No, no, no, it's what Jesus preached all along."
"So how come the earliest Gospels, the Synoptics, say nothing about Jesus being God, but rather making it clear that he's separate from and subordinate to God? It seems like the Johnnian Gospel was a rewrite."
"Perhaps Knuckles the torturer can better explain it to you?"
"No need! Praise Jesus!"
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist