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The Devil
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RE: The Devil
November 23, 2016 at 2:16 pm
(November 23, 2016 at 12:13 pm)Tonus Wrote:
(November 23, 2016 at 12:07 pm)Drich Wrote: Satan only does what he is allowed to do.

If he temped Eve it is because God wanted eve to face temptation.

I just want to be clear, because "allowed to" is not the same as "ordered to."  Is Satan created specifically to test people and try to lead them from God, or does he develop into that role and allowed to carry it out because it serves God's will?  If it's the former, that has to be the worst "good news/bad news" moment of all time.  But it would square with Jesus' description of him in John 8:44.

To be honest I have never give it much thought. I just assumed that he developed a disdain for God as he was one's God's goto guy.

Then i read what you said about john 8:44. What specifically in John 8:44 makes you think he was created as 'the devil?'
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The Devil - by downbeatplumb - November 19, 2016 at 4:36 am
RE: The Devil - by robvalue - November 19, 2016 at 5:10 am
RE: The Devil - by Silver - November 19, 2016 at 10:30 am
RE: The Devil - by robvalue - November 19, 2016 at 5:12 am
RE: The Devil - by AceBoogie - November 19, 2016 at 6:03 am
RE: The Devil - by robvalue - November 19, 2016 at 6:45 am
RE: The Devil - by Edwardo Piet - November 20, 2016 at 1:07 pm
RE: The Devil - by vorlon13 - November 19, 2016 at 10:38 am
RE: The Devil - by robvalue - November 20, 2016 at 3:45 am
RE: The Devil - by downbeatplumb - November 20, 2016 at 6:29 am
RE: The Devil - by Whateverist - November 20, 2016 at 6:40 am
RE: The Devil - by vorlon13 - November 21, 2016 at 2:46 am
RE: The Devil - by robvalue - November 20, 2016 at 6:34 am
RE: The Devil - by Edwardo Piet - November 20, 2016 at 1:09 pm
RE: The Devil - by chimp3 - November 20, 2016 at 1:18 pm
RE: The Devil - by ApeNotKillApe - November 20, 2016 at 1:24 pm
RE: The Devil - by chimp3 - November 21, 2016 at 6:42 am
RE: The Devil - by ApeNotKillApe - November 21, 2016 at 1:37 pm
RE: The Devil - by Crossless1 - November 21, 2016 at 1:49 pm
RE: The Devil - by ApeNotKillApe - November 21, 2016 at 4:45 pm
RE: The Devil - by Crossless1 - November 21, 2016 at 4:57 pm
RE: The Devil - by ApeNotKillApe - November 21, 2016 at 5:10 pm
RE: The Devil - by Doubting Thomas - November 21, 2016 at 5:34 pm
RE: The Devil - by robvalue - November 21, 2016 at 4:11 am
RE: The Devil - by The Grand Nudger - November 21, 2016 at 9:52 am
RE: The Devil - by robvalue - November 21, 2016 at 10:16 am
RE: The Devil - by vorlon13 - November 21, 2016 at 10:27 am
RE: The Devil - by Drich - November 21, 2016 at 10:40 am
RE: The Devil - by Silver - November 21, 2016 at 1:50 pm
RE: The Devil - by Drich - November 23, 2016 at 11:40 am
RE: The Devil - by downbeatplumb - November 21, 2016 at 2:14 pm
RE: The Devil - by Drich - November 22, 2016 at 9:52 am
RE: The Devil - by Iroscato - November 22, 2016 at 6:01 pm
RE: The Devil - by Tonus - November 22, 2016 at 6:33 pm
RE: The Devil - by Drich - November 23, 2016 at 12:03 pm
RE: The Devil - by Drich - November 23, 2016 at 11:46 am
RE: The Devil - by Tonus - November 21, 2016 at 5:04 pm
RE: The Devil - by Opoponax - November 22, 2016 at 5:39 pm
RE: The Devil - by Drich - November 23, 2016 at 11:45 am
RE: The Devil - by Drich - November 23, 2016 at 11:42 am
RE: The Devil - by Tonus - November 23, 2016 at 11:58 am
RE: The Devil - by Drich - November 23, 2016 at 12:07 pm
RE: The Devil - by Tonus - November 23, 2016 at 12:13 pm
RE: The Devil - by Drich - November 23, 2016 at 2:16 pm
RE: The Devil - by Tonus - November 23, 2016 at 5:06 pm
RE: The Devil - by Thumpalumpacus - November 21, 2016 at 6:11 pm
RE: The Devil - by robvalue - November 22, 2016 at 4:24 am
RE: The Devil - by Drich - November 23, 2016 at 11:43 am
RE: The Devil - by Thumpalumpacus - November 22, 2016 at 5:32 am
RE: The Devil - by robvalue - November 23, 2016 at 2:55 am
RE: The Devil - by Drich - November 23, 2016 at 12:04 pm
RE: The Devil - by Opoponax - November 23, 2016 at 1:05 pm
RE: The Devil - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 23, 2016 at 1:16 pm
RE: The Devil - by Drich - November 28, 2016 at 9:28 am
RE: The Devil - by Tonus - November 28, 2016 at 9:46 am
RE: The Devil - by Drich - November 28, 2016 at 11:22 am
RE: The Devil - by vorlon13 - November 23, 2016 at 3:11 am
RE: The Devil - by Minimalist - November 23, 2016 at 1:25 pm
RE: The Devil - by Minimalist - November 23, 2016 at 3:37 pm
RE: The Devil - by John V - November 28, 2016 at 4:20 pm
RE: The Devil - by downbeatplumb - November 29, 2016 at 2:41 pm
RE: The Devil - by Minimalist - November 29, 2016 at 3:10 pm
RE: The Devil - by ApeNotKillApe - November 29, 2016 at 2:56 pm
RE: The Devil - by The Valkyrie - November 29, 2016 at 3:10 pm
RE: The Devil - by ApeNotKillApe - November 29, 2016 at 11:40 pm

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