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Belief in The Devil in 2015
April 9, 2015 at 10:08 pm
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So we know there are still a large number of people in the world who believe in God and the influence he exerts on the universe, but how many still believe in Satan being the overseer of evil? He seems to be mentioned far less than God in discussions that I've seen, and I've barely seen his name come up even in discussions about Hell.
So, theists, I address this mainly to you. What is your stance on Satan? That you believe in him is almost certainly a given, but how big a role do you think he plays? Do you think he responsible for evil and has a direct hand in controlling evil acts, for example?
How many of you believe he possesses people directly?
And perhaps more interestingly, what do you make of him as a being in and of itself? What do you think are his reasons, his motivations, what makes him tick? Aside from him being Evil Incarnate, of course, I mean what do you think he does day to day, kind of thing. Try to not rely on what the bible says, and muse upon the subject yourselves.
Oh yes. I want you to pick the Devil's brain! *Insert evil cackling here*.
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RE: Belief in The Devil in 2015
April 10, 2015 at 12:19 pm
No takers yet? It's been over 12 hours :/
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RE: Belief in The Devil in 2015
April 10, 2015 at 12:52 pm
Not surprising really. If you want answers from theists, I suggest going on to a theist forum.
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RE: Belief in The Devil in 2015
April 10, 2015 at 12:55 pm
Satan is a big problem for theists...seeing as how they all think their stupid god created him.
It tends to keep them quiet on the subject.
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RE: Belief in The Devil in 2015
April 10, 2015 at 12:56 pm
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Alright, I will step up (why not I have no credibility here anyway).
You have a few different sources of information on Satan, primarily the bible, his followers and those who have left Satanism.
His initially stupidity was he was going to overtake God and set himself up as the highest authority.
This did not go too well for him. He had never seen the Justice side of God and made the grandest blunder, from which there was no return.
Lucifer sucked-in a third of the angels to follow him, so there is a hierarchy of evil -
Like an army that is ruled by force from those stronger above them.
Each one hating the one above and wanting to be him, but can't.
His expulsion from Heaven apparently created his immense hatred for Man, who would ultimately be over him and all other angels.
He is called the father of lies because he lied to the first people and has been lying to us ever since.
His day to day operation is like an army continually at war with us, with generals (principalities and powers in high places), lower angels, and finally, demons of varying degrees of ability.
Instigating conflicts, especially wars, abortion, murders, terrorism by his current pet dogs (it formerly was the Vatican, but that venue was overtaken).
Any thing that results in the killing off of those made in God's image is his goal.
His greatest delight is to subvert those with the most light- Christians.
So his UFO demons only rail against Christ and those who follow Him.
All other religions are left alone.
Satan is getting more bold these days as he knows the last sands are running out for him, thus, we see, in Hollywood, and especially on the recent super bowls, overt Satanic symbolism by those who believed his lies ( Madonna and those like her comes to mind) that they will rule and reign with him later.
He gives them goodies for as long as they work for him.
He hates these as much as the rest of us, but like good goats- they are useful for a season and he knows they are going to end up with him in the end anyway.
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RE: Belief in The Devil in 2015
April 10, 2015 at 12:57 pm
Quote: (why not I have no credibility here anyway).
You finally got something right.
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RE: Belief in The Devil in 2015
April 10, 2015 at 1:09 pm
(April 10, 2015 at 12:56 pm)professor Wrote: Alright, I will step up (why not I have no credibility here anyway).
You have a few different sources of information on Satan, primarily the bible, his followers and those who have left Satanism.
His initially stupidity was he was going to overtake God and set himself up as the highest authority.
This did not go too well for him. He had never seen the Justice side of God and made the grandest blunder, from which there was no return.
Funny that someone who was apparently gods right hand man was so wrong.(in this silly story)
Quote:Lucifer sucked-in a third of the angels to follow him, so there is a hierarchy of evil -
Yeah that's right a third of the creatures that had inimate knowledge of "god" decided to rebel against him.
Can't be that great a being after all eh.
Quote:His expulsion from Heaven apparently created his immense hatred for Man, who would ultimately be over him and all other angels.
He is called the father of lies because he lied to the first people and has been lying to us ever since.
Based on.....
Quote:His day to day operation is like an army continually at war with us, with generals (principalities and powers in high places), lower angels, and finally, demons of varying degrees of ability.
Instigating conflicts, especially wars, abortion, murders, terrorism by his current pet dogs (it was the Vatican, but that venue was overtaken).
Any thing that results in the killing off of those made in God's image is his goal.
Really abortion comes before murder and terrorism on your list of evils when in itself it is not evil.
Quote:His greatest delight is to subvert those with the most light- Christians.
So his UFO demons only rail against Christ and those who follow Him.
All other religions are left alone.
What it is to laugh.
Quote:Satan is getting more bold these days as he knows the last sands are running out for him, thus, we see, in Hollywood, and especially on the recent super bowls, overt Satanic symbolism by those who believed his lies ( Madonna and those like her comes to mind) that they will rule and reign with him later.
He gives them goodies for as long as they work for him.
He hates these as much as the rest of us, but like good goats- they are useful for a season and he knows they are going to end up with him in the end anyway.
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RE: Belief in The Devil in 2015
April 10, 2015 at 1:17 pm
(April 10, 2015 at 12:56 pm)professor Wrote: So his UFO demons only rail against Christ and those who follow Him.
UFO demons?
Imagine that anal probe!
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RE: Belief in The Devil in 2015
April 10, 2015 at 1:24 pm
So only christians see UFO demons? Everyone else sees regular UFOs? Seriously prof, you should write a book, it would give psychologists a lot to think about.
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RE: Belief in The Devil in 2015
April 10, 2015 at 1:39 pm
professor - That would be a fun plot* for a horror film, but you really are insane if you believe it.
*Ignoring the obvious plot holes.
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