RE: Feelings aside, what would be the difference?
December 4, 2016 at 6:20 am
(This post was last modified: December 4, 2016 at 6:26 am by Pat Mustard.)
(December 3, 2016 at 4:03 pm)Tonus Wrote:(December 3, 2016 at 1:52 pm)KUSA Wrote: In 4 years from now, what would be the difference between a Trump America or a Hillary America?
I don't care to hear how much you hate him or her as that has been discussed to death. What would be real tangible differences in everything around you?
The most tangible difference might be economic, but I don't know how hard Trump is going to push to keep jobs in the USA and what mechanisms he will use. Federal subsidies could boost the economy during his term(s) versus a likely recession/correction under Hillary.
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I can tell you right now how much effort Trump will put into job and economic growth, nada. He's wedded to the supply side, trickle down bullshittery that the Chicago school have been peddling to governments since the CIA shot Allende and installed Pinochet.
Aside from the gay rights and healthcare problems already discussed, expect the US to get a lot colder of acountry for non WASPs over the next four years. I wouldn't be surprised if state governments in the midwest, south and rust belt get very close to full Jim Crow if the house is kept in 2018. Environmental protection will go out the window, expect open cast mining and mountain top removal in national parks. International cooperation will also go, alon with the few shreds of legal oversight stopping the FBI & CIA from becoming a modern day Stasi.
What else, oh yeah the military-industrial-congressional complex (Eisenhower's original wording) will become more powerful and corrupt, hoovering up more government money and accelerating th US's budget to where the USSR was c 1985. And we all know what happened after that.
(December 3, 2016 at 6:19 pm)Opoponax Wrote: Everyone's said everything I was going to say, so all I have to add is that Hillary would have been predictable. She's not very imaginative, she's not very inspiring, but in terms of stability, she would have done it by-the-book all the time. And I think that's the worst one could say about her.
More importantly though, she would've been able to appoint some good SCOTUS justices, and that's what really bothers me.
If Trump destroys the ACA, it's bad, but we can begin to work on getting it back in four years. If he fucks the environment during his term, we can begin to get it back in four years. Etcetera.
But his SCOTUS appointments are going to fuck us for decades to come. Trump is going to look at that and ask himself, "If I appoint this guy, how will it benefit Trump?" So imagine that; at least one, probably two, maybe even three Supreme Court Justices appointed by Donald Trump. A conservative 6-3 or even 7-2 majority.
There's good reason to be scared.
In terms of the environment we're pretty much at 11:59:59 on the clock for preventing runaway global warming. Environmental laws need to be more stringent than even the Dems are willing to contemplate. With Trump there's probably no hope for species survival.
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