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Theists: would you view the truth?
RE: Theists: would you view the truth?
(December 5, 2016 at 1:44 pm)robvalue Wrote:
(December 5, 2016 at 10:46 am)Drich Wrote: At a certain point Faith is replaced. Believe it or not God does interact via the Holy Spirit IF and Only if you do things His way. That is when faith goes away and is replaced by a solid evidenced based belief.

If I had never known God, and all I had was a unconfirmed faith and my whole system of learning was based on information being presented a certain way, then yes. I believe I would just follow whatever the hive mind thought was a worm hole and was what happened.

Let me ask you this, what if the worm hole bore out the bible's version of events? Would you then have faith/believe?

I have no idea what that answer was meant to be. Would you look in the wormhole or not, if you were you, as you are now? Just looking for a yes or no.

I'd believe whatever events I saw. It would be interesting to know the truth. It wouldn't make any difference to me though.

We see daily here believers not agreeing, and therefore not following, whatever parts of the Bible don't conform to whatever their whim of the moment is.

I'm not sure seeing Jesus in RL is going to change anything about their malleable, inconstant, and mercurial beliefs regardless of what they see Him doing.

Let's say Jesus really does walk on the water, would that inspire CL or Drich to drink poison or handle deadly serpents if they saw that part of the Bible brought to life too ??


Even knowing there are Hindus or Buddhists (I forget which) that can do the snake thing doesn't seem to have inspired much emulation in the US by the Christer community which I'd think would be eager for some big ticket PR stuff now.  Hell, out side of Appalachia, the snake handlers are looked at like they're kooks or something, not as the pious folks they clearly are.
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - November 27, 2016 at 6:17 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by purplepurpose - November 27, 2016 at 8:11 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - November 27, 2016 at 9:45 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Aoi Magi - November 27, 2016 at 8:24 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by purplepurpose - November 27, 2016 at 8:33 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Ignorant - November 27, 2016 at 10:22 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by downbeatplumb - November 27, 2016 at 11:36 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Ignorant - November 27, 2016 at 1:16 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Minimalist - November 27, 2016 at 2:47 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Ignorant - November 27, 2016 at 3:45 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by brewer - November 27, 2016 at 11:41 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Crossless1 - November 27, 2016 at 12:01 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Whateverist - November 27, 2016 at 12:06 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by vorlon13 - November 27, 2016 at 12:45 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Edwardo Piet - November 27, 2016 at 2:07 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Edwardo Piet - November 27, 2016 at 9:31 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - November 28, 2016 at 12:12 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - November 28, 2016 at 1:29 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by purplepurpose - November 28, 2016 at 8:28 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - November 29, 2016 at 11:45 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Faith No More - November 29, 2016 at 2:25 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - November 29, 2016 at 4:05 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Crossless1 - November 29, 2016 at 4:35 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Simon Moon - November 29, 2016 at 4:36 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Edwardo Piet - November 30, 2016 at 12:05 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Edwardo Piet - November 29, 2016 at 5:20 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Angrboda - November 29, 2016 at 8:32 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - November 30, 2016 at 10:44 am
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RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - December 1, 2016 at 11:51 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by AceBoogie - December 6, 2016 at 9:10 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Angrboda - December 6, 2016 at 9:45 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Minimalist - November 28, 2016 at 12:30 am
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RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Minimalist - November 29, 2016 at 4:53 pm
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RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Minimalist - November 29, 2016 at 9:06 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Ignorant - November 30, 2016 at 6:45 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Minimalist - November 28, 2016 at 1:41 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by vorlon13 - November 28, 2016 at 2:42 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - November 28, 2016 at 3:25 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - November 28, 2016 at 9:08 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - November 29, 2016 at 2:38 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Edwardo Piet - November 29, 2016 at 11:55 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Cyberman - November 29, 2016 at 11:58 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by PETE_ROSE - November 29, 2016 at 12:22 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Edwardo Piet - November 29, 2016 at 12:47 pm
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RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - December 1, 2016 at 1:58 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Cyberman - November 29, 2016 at 2:13 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by RoadRunner79 - November 29, 2016 at 5:11 pm
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RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Edwardo Piet - November 30, 2016 at 12:09 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Catholic_Lady - November 30, 2016 at 11:54 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by ignoramus - December 2, 2016 at 6:21 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Catholic_Lady - December 2, 2016 at 12:04 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Minimalist - December 1, 2016 at 2:23 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Ignorant - December 1, 2016 at 3:54 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Cyberman - December 1, 2016 at 6:16 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Ignorant - December 1, 2016 at 7:44 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - December 1, 2016 at 9:38 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by vorlon13 - December 1, 2016 at 12:20 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - December 1, 2016 at 1:09 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by vorlon13 - December 1, 2016 at 2:51 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by RoadRunner79 - December 1, 2016 at 3:31 pm
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RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Ignorant - December 1, 2016 at 4:03 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - December 1, 2016 at 6:17 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Edwardo Piet - December 1, 2016 at 6:33 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - December 1, 2016 at 9:57 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Edwardo Piet - December 1, 2016 at 10:13 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by vorlon13 - December 1, 2016 at 10:15 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - December 2, 2016 at 6:25 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Ignorant - December 2, 2016 at 7:21 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - December 2, 2016 at 8:02 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Ignorant - December 2, 2016 at 9:54 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Cyberman - December 2, 2016 at 11:10 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - December 2, 2016 at 10:01 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Ignorant - December 2, 2016 at 12:18 pm
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RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Drich - December 2, 2016 at 4:25 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Minimalist - December 2, 2016 at 4:28 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - December 2, 2016 at 4:30 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Drich - December 5, 2016 at 10:46 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - December 5, 2016 at 1:44 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by vorlon13 - December 5, 2016 at 2:18 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Angrboda - December 6, 2016 at 8:28 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - December 3, 2016 at 5:36 am
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RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - December 3, 2016 at 7:04 am
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RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - December 3, 2016 at 12:55 pm
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RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - December 3, 2016 at 1:21 pm
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RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Minimalist - December 4, 2016 at 2:23 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by vorlon13 - December 5, 2016 at 1:32 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Drich - December 6, 2016 at 10:17 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Cyberman - December 5, 2016 at 1:36 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by vorlon13 - December 5, 2016 at 1:39 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Minimalist - December 5, 2016 at 1:40 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Cyberman - December 5, 2016 at 1:50 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - December 5, 2016 at 1:53 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Drich - December 6, 2016 at 10:25 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - December 6, 2016 at 11:26 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Drich - December 12, 2016 at 9:58 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Whateverist - December 12, 2016 at 10:14 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Crossless1 - December 12, 2016 at 5:21 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Cyberman - December 5, 2016 at 1:58 pm
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RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by John V - December 6, 2016 at 1:14 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by John V - December 8, 2016 at 11:36 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - December 6, 2016 at 11:05 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by AceBoogie - December 6, 2016 at 3:42 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Neo-Scholastic - December 8, 2016 at 12:39 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by AceBoogie - December 8, 2016 at 5:10 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by vorlon13 - December 12, 2016 at 12:32 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - December 12, 2016 at 3:17 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Cyberman - December 12, 2016 at 9:47 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Cyberman - December 12, 2016 at 10:04 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by vorlon13 - December 12, 2016 at 1:19 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Whateverist - December 12, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - December 12, 2016 at 3:48 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by Drich - December 14, 2016 at 6:24 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by vorlon13 - December 12, 2016 at 4:23 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by vorlon13 - December 12, 2016 at 7:45 pm
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - December 13, 2016 at 4:21 am
RE: Theists: would you view the truth? - by robvalue - December 15, 2016 at 5:09 am
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