RE: Theists: would you view the truth?
December 6, 2016 at 3:42 pm
(This post was last modified: December 6, 2016 at 3:42 pm by AceBoogie.)
(December 6, 2016 at 11:05 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I did answer the question...extensively. Now please read the thread...
http://atheistforums.org/thread-46490-po...pid1459683
http://atheistforums.org/thread-46490-po...pid1460477
http://atheistforums.org/thread-46490-po...pid1461133
In summary, the “events” in question include not just the purported miracle but all the expectations around it and its place within a larger historical narrative. Look, if I peep through a time-space wormhole lens and go back the wedding at Canaan and see Jesus slipping dye and everclear into the wine, then of course I would feel deceived. Any normal thinking person would. Personally, I would probably give up on Jesus and turn to a more abstract neo-Platonic philosophy.
Interesting how you use the term "normal thinking person" yet you fail to realize that the evidence we have for Jesus' existence is shaky at best. We don't even know if the man was real.
Any normal thinking person would highly doubt the existence of such a man in the first place. Any normal thinking person would question the very bronze age book of bullshit that they base their entire religion off of. Any normal thinking person would apply the same logic and reason they use in every other area of their life to their personal philosophy and beliefs to see how it holds up to the test. I don't doubt that you are, in fact, a "normal thinking person" but you apparently do not use your intellect to make decisions on the matter of religion. Because intellect doesn't apply to religion, right?
Of course only the most staunch theists will admit that nothing could ever change their mind. I hope you're being honest, if not with us, with yourself.
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It is the air and light of every heart – builder of every home, kindler of every fire on every hearth. It was the first to dream of immortality. It fills the world with melody – for music is the voice of love.
Love is the magician, the enchanter, that changes worthless things to Joy, and makes royal kings and queens of common clay. It is the perfume of that wondrous flower, the heart, and without that sacred passion, that divine swoon, we are less than beasts; but with it, earth is heaven, and we are gods.” - Robert. G. Ingersoll
It is the air and light of every heart – builder of every home, kindler of every fire on every hearth. It was the first to dream of immortality. It fills the world with melody – for music is the voice of love.
Love is the magician, the enchanter, that changes worthless things to Joy, and makes royal kings and queens of common clay. It is the perfume of that wondrous flower, the heart, and without that sacred passion, that divine swoon, we are less than beasts; but with it, earth is heaven, and we are gods.” - Robert. G. Ingersoll