RE: What is it with Trump supporters not wanting to discuss policy without name calling
December 22, 2016 at 1:50 pm
(December 22, 2016 at 12:26 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:(December 22, 2016 at 12:12 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Trump is racist because he made racist inflammatory speeches, he was a leading light in the "birther" movement which was racist.
He attracts racists because he is obviously racist.
As for his issues.
What Trump says one day he contradicts the next unless it plays well, then he ignores it later.
He is a compulsive liar whose every word should not be believed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDiazdqMLIY
There have been birther movements against other people who weren't black also, Ted Cruz for example. I've always thought of birtherism as a stupid conspiracy theory but to call it racist seems far fetched. Of course even legitimate criticism of Obama gets called racist. Also being anti-immigrant isn't racist. I wonder how many white Americans realize that 'Mexican' isn't a race but a nationality. "Send the niggers back to Africa" is a racist speech. Trumps speech that most often gets called racist is the one people claim he called all Mexican's racist. Here is the text of that part: "When Mexico sends it people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people," Meh. I mean I have problems with that speech in that it's ignorant and conspiracy minded. The Mexican government isn't sending anybody, people are coming on their own. While maybe you could interpret that as racist, I don't think you could call it 'obviously racist.' Maybe you have a better example?
I think the constant racism talk was what cost Hillary the election. You say that what he said in that speech and probably some others is obviously racist. Well there are a lot of people (just need to note that I'm not one of them, before that accusation gets thrown out there) who agree with him. When he says stuff like the inner cities are a mess and full of crime, there are a lot of people who agree with him. When Trump gets called a racist for saying various stuff that's fairly commonly believed in the US, the Hillary campaign called millions of people racist too. Guess what, people don't like getting called racist and it pissed them off enough to come out in droves and vote against Hillary. That's my theory anyway.
I think the racist name calling was part of why she lost. If the dems continue with this tactic it's going to cost them another election 2 / 4 years from now. But what I think mainly cost them the election, (and no, not the Russians), is that they lost the biggest part of their base, the white blue collar working class males in the rust belt and coal states. These guys traditionally voted democrat for years. They elected Obama to office, twice. You can't alienate your largest base and win elections. You can't shut their jobs down and think you're going to continue to get their vote...and you can't continue to malign and demonize them as racists and think you're going to retake both Houses of Congress and the Presidency.
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