RE: What is it with Trump supporters not wanting to discuss policy without name calling
December 22, 2016 at 2:01 pm
(This post was last modified: December 22, 2016 at 2:03 pm by CapnAwesome.)
(December 22, 2016 at 1:41 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dona...60bf777e83
(December 22, 2016 at 12:26 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: There have been birther movements against other people who weren't black also, Ted Cruz for example. I've always thought of birtherism as a stupid conspiracy theory but to call it racist seems far fetched. Of course even legitimate criticism of Obama gets called racist. Also being anti-immigrant isn't racist. I wonder how many white Americans realize that 'Mexican' isn't a race but a nationality. "Send the niggers back to Africa" is a racist speech. Trumps speech that most often gets called racist is the one people claim he called all Mexican's racist. Here is the text of that part: "When Mexico sends it people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people," Meh. I mean I have problems with that speech in that it's ignorant and conspiracy minded. The Mexican government isn't sending anybody, people are coming on their own. While maybe you could interpret that as racist, I don't think you could call it 'obviously racist.' Maybe you have a better example?
I think the constant racism talk was what cost Hillary the election. You say that what he said in that speech and probably some others is obviously racist. Well there are a lot of people (just need to note that I'm not one of them, before that accusation gets thrown out there) who agree with him. When he says stuff like the inner cities are a mess and full of crime, there are a lot of people who agree with him. When Trump gets called a racist for saying various stuff that's fairly commonly believed in the US, the Hillary campaign called millions of people racist too. Guess what, people don't like getting called racist and it pissed them off enough to come out in droves and vote against Hillary. That's my theory anyway.Quote:In fact, discrimination against black people has been a pattern in his career
Workers at Trump’s casinos in Atlantic City, New Jersey, have accused him of racism over the years. The New Jersey Casino Control Commission fined the Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino because managers would remove African-American card dealers at the request of a certain big-spending gambler. A state appeals court upheld the fine.
The first-person account of at least one black Trump casino employee in Atlantic City suggests the racist practices were consistent with Trump’s personal behavior toward black workers.
“When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, “It was the eighties, I was a teen-ager, but I remember it: they put us all in the back.”
Trump disparaged his black casino employees as “lazy” in vividly bigoted terms, a former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino.
“And isn’t it funny. I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it,” O’Donnell recalled Trump saying. “The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dona...60bf777e83
I mean the only things that article that I would say are 'obviously racist' are hearsay from 20 year old memories. Do you really put stock in a decades old quote that is just from somebodies memory? Of course not. I mean by the standard that Trump is held to, Hillary Clinton could be called racist too. So could most people who have said anything about race in public. Black youth being super criminals and all. I mean I think Trump has some racial biases, I wouldn't be surprised if he were a soft racist, but most of the things that there is good proof he said fall somewhere in mainstream thought. Also Huffington post is basically the left-wing Brietbart, read it because it's good to read everything, but I'd check some source material if I were you.
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