Karma poll

[Little Rik]

I don't believe in Karma as a spiritual force -- but I do think that one should live by the philosophy that "what goes around comes around."

In order to think and believe in that philosophy which is quite good a person need a moral way of life.
If that doesn't come from spirituality where then can come from?  
Can you explain that to me?  

As far as I understand atheism live by the day (actions thought for short term results) not by the future or better say on long term results as reincarnation is off so how is then possible to think that later on a person pay the bill for previous actions?  

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Rik, death is not an event - it is a process.  A dying (not yet dead) brain still has imperfect function.  
That is from where NDEs emanate, your ridiculous unevidenced opinions notwithstanding.

Not yet dead?
Doctors say that is dead not in the process of dying.
You can't get it Chas, do you?  

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Evidence to the contrary Ton?
Lol.
If you only would have read what I did write recently you would have plenty of evidence to the contrary.

1) I said that something material-physical such as the brain can not give birth to something a lot more subtle and evolved as the consciousness.
2) Nothing in your link point to any solid evidence.
They are all opinions.
3) To understand what the consciousness is all about you got to leave the physical reality and get deep into the subconscious mind and that is mainly possible by PRACTICING intuitional science or yoga meditation although there are other ways possible but those ways takes for ever.
4) The consciousness is like an iceberg.
The above part show only little while the part under show everything.
By studying the physical phenomena you can only study the above that is why all those so called philosophers and scholars are unable to get into the subconscious mind.

Which of the above "I said" bullshit is supposed to be evidence?

1) Even demented idiots know that the brain is made of matter while the consciousness is an abstract reality.
This is 100% evidence yog.
From here the conclusion is only one and that is that something less evolved can not possibly give birth to something more evolved.

2) Demented idiots also know that there is a known mind (conscious mind) and a hidden mind.
This is evident and apparent when the missing word or solution to the problem come in the known mind after an effort and that can only come from the subconscious mind or hidden mind.

3) Any idiot would tell you that to fix your leaking toilet  you call a plumber not an electrician.
From here any idiot would understand that physical science can not possibly understand the subconscious mind.

You can well keep on dreaming yog but until you do so logic will stay well away from your existence.    



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