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Poll: Where you stand?
This poll is closed.
There is no karma and no future lives so criminals get off the hook
58.54%
24 58.54%
There is karma and nobody who commit crimes get off the hook.
7.32%
3 7.32%
I wouldn't know, in any case I don't care
34.15%
14 34.15%
Total 41 vote(s) 100%
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RE: Karma poll
(December 19, 2016 at 7:05 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(December 18, 2016 at 7:36 pm)Little Rik Wrote: Easy Ton.
You say..........we know.........to know you must produce evidence but where on hell is your evidence?
Nobody ever produced any evidence that the consciousness is a product of the brain.
(December 18, 2016 at 10:45 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: You keep telling this lie.  I've presented evidence multiple times.  How can you be such a scumbag?  Are you just incapable of remembering anything that's contrary to your beliefs?


Lier.  Wink

All you did produced are guessings and more guessing.
As far as real and solid evidence absolutely nothing.

NOTHING.  Indubitably

So you admit that I produced evidence and you dismissed it. That makes you a self-conscious liar. Thanks for the confession.
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RE: Karma poll
(December 19, 2016 at 1:32 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(December 19, 2016 at 7:05 am)Little Rik Wrote: Lier.  Wink

All you did produced are guessings and more guessing.
As far as real and solid evidence absolutely nothing.

NOTHING.  Indubitably

So you admit that I produced evidence and you dismissed it.  That makes you a self-conscious liar.   Thanks for the confession.


You got a problem Yog. (among all other problems of course)  Banging Head On Desk

In the previous post you say that you produce evidence.
I did reply to you that you never did because all you produced was a lot of guessing rather than evidence.

Now you pop up saying that I am a liar because you produce evidence.
Hell on hearth Yog.
Show the evidence or go back to sleep.  Wink

(December 19, 2016 at 10:27 am)Stimbo Wrote:
(December 19, 2016 at 9:00 am)Little Rik Wrote: [Image: 13ep2c.jpg]

This may be the only honest thing you've ever expressed. Your mind isn't merely closed; it's barred, bolted, chained, padlocked, and you've thrown away the key. You quite simply don't care about anything outside your tiny head. How very sad for you.


Wrong again Stim.  Smile

I am always ready to listen to anything that make sense but not much that you say make any sense.
Many of you guys pop up all the time with so called evidence that evidence is not.
Take the story that the consciousness is a product of the brain follow by links that only show personal idea about the topic which of course are just opinions.
Nothing that show any solid and undisputed evidence.
So what you expect?
You expect me to agree that you show evidence when in reality is an opinion?

You never thought of that Stim, did you?  Bird
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RE: Karma poll
Arguments from personal incredulity are your problem, nobody else's.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Karma poll
(December 19, 2016 at 6:52 pm)Little Rik Wrote: Take the story that the consciousness is a product of the brain follow by links that only show personal idea about the topic which of course are just opinions.

LOL. So that is your approach, then... to ignore it and pretend it didn't provide the evidence you asked for. I will note yet again that you did not provide any evidence to the contrary while first demanding evidence and then demanding "real" and "solid" and "undisputed" evidence. This from someone who thinks a book and website cataloging NDE experiences is evidence of karma and of the existence of a soul.

I realize you'll just ignore this and spew more garbage, but I just wanted to point it out one last time. That's who you are, Rik.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: Karma poll
(December 19, 2016 at 8:08 pm)Tonus Wrote:
(December 19, 2016 at 6:52 pm)Little Rik Wrote: Take the story that the consciousness is a product of the brain follow by links that only show personal idea about the topic which of course are just opinions.

LOL.  So that is your approach, then... to ignore it and pretend it didn't provide the evidence you asked for.  I will note yet again that you did not provide any evidence to the contrary while first demanding evidence and then demanding "real" and "solid" and "undisputed" evidence.  This from someone who thinks a book and website cataloging NDE experiences is evidence of karma and of the existence of a soul.

I realize you'll just ignore this and spew more garbage, but I just wanted to point it out one last time. That's who you are, Rik.


Evidence to the contrary Ton?
Lol.
If you only would have read what I did write recently you would have plenty of evidence to the contrary.

1) I said that something material-physical such as the brain can not give birth to something a lot more subtle and evolved as the consciousness.
2) Nothing in your link point to any solid evidence.
They are all opinions.
3) To understand what the consciousness is all about you got to leave the physical reality and get deep into the subconscious mind and that is mainly possible by PRACTICING intuitional science or yoga meditation although there are other ways possible but those ways takes for ever.
4) The consciousness is like an iceberg.
The above part show only little while the part under show everything.
By studying the physical phenomena you can only study the above that is why all those so called philosophers and scholars are unable to get into the subconscious mind.

These Ton are reality not your bull that you try to sell for the real McCoy.  Lightbulb



While you meditate on what I just said LR head to the beautiful Byron Bay.  Smile

(December 19, 2016 at 7:49 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Arguments from personal incredulity are your problem, nobody else's.


Arguments from argue.
Right?

So it is all about arguing not by provide evidence.
Right?  Smile
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RE: Karma poll
What?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?
-Esquilax

Evolution - Adapt or be eaten.
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RE: Karma poll
(December 19, 2016 at 9:04 pm)Little Rik Wrote:
(December 19, 2016 at 8:08 pm)Tonus Wrote: LOL.  So that is your approach, then... to ignore it and pretend it didn't provide the evidence you asked for.  I will note yet again that you did not provide any evidence to the contrary while first demanding evidence and then demanding "real" and "solid" and "undisputed" evidence.  This from someone who thinks a book and website cataloging NDE experiences is evidence of karma and of the existence of a soul.

I realize you'll just ignore this and spew more garbage, but I just wanted to point it out one last time. That's who you are, Rik.


Evidence to the contrary Ton?
Lol.
If you only would have read what I did write recently you would have plenty of evidence to the contrary.

1) I said that something material-physical such as the brain can not give birth to something a lot more subtle and evolved as the consciousness.
2) Nothing in your link point to any solid evidence.
They are all opinions.
3) To understand what the consciousness is all about you got to leave the physical reality and get deep into the subconscious mind and that is mainly possible by PRACTICING intuitional science or yoga meditation although there are other ways possible but those ways takes for ever.
4) The consciousness is like an iceberg.
The above part show only little while the part under show everything.
By studying the physical phenomena you can only study the above that is why all those so called philosophers and scholars are unable to get into the subconscious mind.

Which of the above "I said" bullshit is supposed to be evidence?
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RE: Karma poll
Rik, death is not an event - it is a process.  A dying (not yet dead) brain still has imperfect function.  
That is from where NDEs emanate, your ridiculous unevidenced opinions notwithstanding.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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RE: Karma poll
I don't believe in Karma as a spiritual force -- but I do think that one should live by the philosophy that "what goes around comes around."
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