RE: Hilarious! Trump having problems finding artists.
December 26, 2016 at 4:46 pm
(This post was last modified: December 26, 2016 at 4:49 pm by Tiberius.)
(December 26, 2016 at 3:07 pm)abaris Wrote: The last two examples are of course ridiculous. But I doubt that they represent more than the extreme fringe of any leftwing movement.
That's what we're talking about though. This is the extreme fringe of the left.
Quote:But how does the opinion that nuclear power carries dangers and should be shut down compare to inciting hatred against certain groups people? How does fighting capitalism compare to outright racism?
This isn't about comparing opinions of the two extremes because clearly they are at odds on almost everything. This is about the way they express those opinions, and the logic / science behind them. Both the extreme left and the extreme right loudly express their ill-informed opinions and use awful logic to support their arguments. That's how they are similar.
If you want to compare the actual opinions, then the leftist's anti-nuclear power argument is best compared with the far right's stance on climate change. Both are anti-scientific and environmental positions.
The racism of the far right is best compared with the racism of the extreme left, where people are told be ashamed of being <insert majority race here>.
So yeah, I'm not in favor of comparing apples and oranges when you can compare varieties of apples instead.
Quote:What I mean, one is hurtful, the other one isn't if it doesn't find a majority. Many things such as replacing nuclear power for new forms of energy isn't even hurtful if it was persued. It actually is persued in many European countries.
I disagree. All of these extreme opinions are hurtful in some way, precisely because they are based on illogical and unscientific reasoning. Nuclear power, like it or not, is a clean energy source when it's implemented properly, and in terms of cost, it's much much cheaper than solar / wind on a price per kwh. So it checks most of the boxes that environmentalists like being checked, and is better for the economy. On top of that, it's a good job creator.
The fact that European countries are pursuing non-nuclear energy sources over investing in nuclear technology is a negative thing. Unfortunately the anti-nuclear rhetoric has a greater hold over there than it does in the US.
Quote:My opinion is this, if one side is attacking actual people while the other side simply strives for some kind of utopia for all the people, I know which side to choose. Given only those two choices.
I have yet to see actual evidence that the extreme left want a utopia for all the people; they behave like they want a utopia for only the people who think like them, where freedom of speech is suppressed to avoid hurt feelings, and scientific progress is rejected in favor of "natural" things (whatever that means).