RE: What is it with Trump supporters not wanting to discuss policy without name calling
December 28, 2016 at 6:39 pm
(December 28, 2016 at 5:55 pm)abaris Wrote:(December 25, 2016 at 11:10 am)Tiberius Wrote: Ok, to the liberals in this thread saying that the KKK endorsing Trump makes Trump a racist:
STOP IT
Its a terrible argument and terrible use of logic. Moreover, its guilt by association, where the association wasn't even asked for by Trump.
If someone endorses you, it means that someone likes you. It doesn't imply ANY inverse relationship.
Think of it this way. If a racist came onto this forum and kudosed a post you made, maybe kudosed every post you made, said you were the best poster here, does that make you a racist? Fuck no. So stop applying the same argument to other things.
There *is* an argument that refusing to acknowledge or reject the KKK's endorsement is subtly racist, but it's a very weak argument. Go by the actions and words of the person that are obviously racist, or people will call you on it.
He's the first presidential candidate in history - to my knowledge - being endorsed by these groups/persons. That means they liked the message. And it's certainly not on the same lines as a kudos. It's more like a rep, if you want to go down the forum road. I got one from one I consider at least partially racist, but that rep got removed, since I didn't hold back with my opinions. Trump's rep hasn't been removed from start to finish.
So either he did a very poor job wording his message or he simply played to his natural charms for getting these kinds of endorsments.
That's a false dichotomy. Another, alternative instance: That someone, or some group, may support a candidate not on the basis that they think the candidate is great, but rather on the basis that they hate the competing candidate more.
Also, an interesting tidbit for you: the suffragetes - that is; first-wave feminism - had the support of the KKK.
