RE: Do you think Muslims will dominate the world again like they used before?
January 2, 2017 at 5:11 am
(January 1, 2017 at 11:27 pm)Orochi Wrote:Quote:Islam is only 1% of the whole, that would still be around 15,000,000 people.
Yup and there is another 99% who are against them along with the 99% of us so there 15,000,000 amounts to jack shit hell they can't even organize properly there as libel to kill each as they are us so sam's being an alarmist tool
15,000,000 is a medium-sized country, not a small fringe cult of a few thousand in the deserts of Northern Arabia.
Sam Harris is not an "alarmist", he's someone who (finally) isn't trying to ignore, whitewash and downplay Islamism. I'd also argue that radicalism and extremist views are not exclusive to terrorists or ISIS. Simply not being violent is not enough for me to call you "moderate", if you're still a Wahhabist who "non-violently" believes apostasy and homosexuality should be criminalised and the niqab should be pushed to "protect" women, you are not "moderate". Yes it's still a minority of Muslims who believe that, but it's not a small "fringe" minority, it's a pretty big minority that you don't have to look very far to encounter, even in Europe.
I repeat because it's necessary after saying that, no I don't think an Islamist take-over is about to happen in Europe, not imminently anyway.
We don't help however by trying to ignore that Wahhabism exists within our societies, and refusing to talk about it so as not to look "bigoted". We'd do well, as a start, to actually get a better diversity of opinions from "the Muslim community" instead of just giving authority to Islamic "scholars" and Imams. Where's the platform for Ex-Muslims and practicing reformers? Those are the voices we need to hear right now.
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