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Truth in a story which is entirely dependent upon subjective interpretation
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RE: Truth in a story which is entirely dependent upon subjective interpretation
(January 3, 2017 at 10:19 pm)Lek Wrote:
(January 3, 2017 at 9:58 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: But I'm sure you will be able to understand the burden that puts on us skeptics.

You even stated one of the many problems with your proposition.


Why would an omniscient and omnipotent god not take better precautions in order to assure his message is not corrupted by us fallible humans?


The Christian proposition is that, the omniscient and omnipotent creator of the universe has this message, that unless we believe it, we are destined for eternal torture, or annihilation, or whatever you believe happens to us nonbelievers (another major discrepancy between different sects) after we die.

And how does he choose to communicate the 'most important message', ever?

He inspires a very few of his creation, in a very small geographical location, on one planet out of 10 to the 24 planets in the observable universe, to write it down on little pieces of parchment. No, wait. He doesn't even do that. He has them wait decades in the case of the NT, and centuries in the case of the OT, before he has them write it down.

And when they finally do, they write it ancient languages that this omni god would know are sure to: die out, be full of cultural idioms, be susceptible to copy errors, contradictions, insertions, stories that seem borrowed from older religions, stories of magical incantations, mythological creatures, incorrect history, etc, etc.

All the while, allowing the vast majority of the rest of humanity of the time (about 300 million people), on every other continent, to not hear the message, and develop their own 'man made' religions. Religion seems to have an extremely powerful geographical element to it. Curious that Rolleyes

So, here I am, a modern human, with so much more knowledge of the universe than even the greatest minds of ancient Palestine, expected to take the message seriously, when all I am given to evaluate it, is these flawed texts and this flawed premise.

And here you come, an equally modern human, forced to come up with some post hoc rationalisation in an attempt to explain away all the problems with the texts.

What you see as "god's" method of wanting "us to search, discuss and debate, which makes it much less boring", we see as texts with major credibility problems.

Yeah.  It's funny how, with all those drawbacks with the bible, that christianity has spread all over the world and is the largest religion in the world.  Whatever the drawbacks with the bible, christianity has, and still is doing remarkably well, and is doing best in those "other" geographical regions.  Also, the bible has drawn countless people to an interest in Christ, but faith doesn't come from reading the scriptures, but rather from God himself for those who seek him.

Yeah, and the slaves and plantation owners were bestest buddies! Just like the conquistadors and the South American natives! Because they spread it through niceness and puppy dog belly rubs! And nobody needs to have their minds warped by indoctrination to believe any of those stories, anyone can be convinced of things without evidence, that's why anyone accused of a crime is automatically guilty unless they can prove they didn't do it! Duh!

Atomic face palm.

Please, for the love of the god that doesn't exist, tell me you can at least somewhat understand how a skeptic would assess religion's effect on your mental state in a negative way.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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RE: Truth in a story which is entirely dependent upon subjective interpretation - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 1:20 pm

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