(January 5, 2017 at 1:21 pm)Napoléon Wrote:If it was a father doing that I'd understand that being taken as a special case thing. Idk, I'm not that strongly against "hate crime" legislation I just don't see much need for it.(January 5, 2017 at 1:14 pm)Regina Wrote: I also think the term "hate crime" is pointless and redundant in all cases. Crime is crime, send these 4 people off for a very lengthy jail sentence, get the victim the treatment and counselling he's going to need and let's move on with the rest of our lives.
I disagree.
There's a massive difference between certain motivations.
Someone torturing another because they'd raped their daughter is not the same as someone torturing someone purely out of hatred for another race.
Torture itself is probably not the best example because there is a certain vindictiveness about it that makes it completely indefensible. But murder on the other hand, as another example, could be seen quite differently.
I actually saw some of the footage though and, fuck it I'm gonna say it, these 4 people in particular deserve to be fucking stoned. I actually think torture is worse than just quick murder, the psychological and physical trauma of it.
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