RE: Witness/insight claims of the authors of the Bible
January 12, 2017 at 3:08 pm
(This post was last modified: January 12, 2017 at 3:11 pm by emjay.)
(January 12, 2017 at 2:56 pm)Rhythm Wrote: All religions begin as cults (not always by their own choice). There's actually a system for determining what stage of development any x is at...I can't remember the name, I'll try to find it for you.
(January 12, 2017 at 2:59 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Indeed.
Mormonism is not unique. The more Ehrman I read, the more I realize religion across time uses the same play book. Some aspects of early Judaism and Christianity don't have parallels in 1800s Mormonism, like oral legends later on being written down centuries later as the Mormons managed to get stuff logged in pretty quickly. But it didn't stop them from changing it though, LOL. And the Mormons accuse the other christer sects of changing things willy nilly, and its true enough, they just hate talking about all the instances they have changed 'sacred' writings, and LOL, even documented and published the differing versions of them.
That's fascinating... I'd never thought of it like that. So true... starts with a small group of people following one person... a self-proclaimed prophet... and I guess morphs from cult to religion the more widespread it gets, and thus less directly reliant on the original prophet?
(January 12, 2017 at 3:08 pm)Emjay Wrote:(January 12, 2017 at 2:56 pm)Rhythm Wrote: All religions begin as cults (not always by their own choice). There's actually a system for determining what stage of development any x is at...I can't remember the name, I'll try to find it for you.
(January 12, 2017 at 2:59 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Indeed.
Mormonism is not unique. The more Ehrman I read, the more I realize religion across time uses the same play book. Some aspects of early Judaism and Christianity don't have parallels in 1800s Mormonism, like oral legends later on being written down centuries later as the Mormons managed to get stuff logged in pretty quickly. But it didn't stop them from changing it though, LOL. And the Mormons accuse the other christer sects of changing things willy nilly, and its true enough, they just hate talking about all the instances they have changed 'sacred' writings, and LOL, even documented and published the differing versions of them.
That's fascinating... I'd never thought of it like that. So true... starts with a small group of people following one person... a self-proclaimed prophet... and I guess morphs from cult to religion the more widespread it gets, and thus less directly reliant on the original prophet?
So in a weird way, under that definition, cult would actually be more reliable than religion, because its founder is still around to question and/or its more direct and less based on Chinese Whispers?
