Witness/insight claims of the authors of the Bible

[Drich]

A little sample of what you have to look forward to:

Funnily enough that kind of ties in with the fact that I've been trying to decide on an open learning course to do and my first choice was philosophy but today I started to look at the possibility of doing a Theology/Religious Studies course... just because it looked interesting (though I don't think it's historical like this)... and my uber-Christian dad wasn't keen on it... basically because of the general rule of thumb that nobody who actually studies Religion academically ends up believing in it

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To that end I would point at the book of revelation. We know moses recorded the pentateuch/the first 5 books of the OT. Which includes Genesis. This means that it is moses who had the third person perspective in Genesis. the next question is how or is there any other biblical precedent that allowed for a 3rd person two view something out of their time and then record it back in their time... The answer is Yes. This very thing happens to John of patmos. an Angel of God took him to see how the world would end. If an angel has the ablity to do this at the end of time, then shouldn't God be able to do the same with Moses? Remember that is who Moses was with those many days on mt. Cyanide while the rest of the jews waited at the foot of the mountain.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-authors.html

Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy = Moses - 1400 B.C. (prophet)
Joshua = Joshua - 1350 B.C. (appointed leader of the Jews/prophet)
Judges, Ruth, 1 Samuel, 2 Samuel = Samuel/Nathan/Gad - 1000 - 900 B.C. (phophets)
1 Kings, 2 Kings = Jeremiah - 600 B.C.(prophet)
1 Chronicles, 2 Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah = Ezra - 450 B.C.(prophet)
Esther = Mordecai - 400 B.C. (ester's uncle and exile of nebcanezzar)/first person
Job = Moses - 1400 B.C.(prophet)
Psalms = several different authors, mostly David - 1000 - 400 B.C. (a collection of preists and kings)
Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon = Solomon - 900 B.C. King of the Jews/prophet
Isaiah = Isaiah - 700 B.C. (prophet)
Jeremiah, Lamentations = Jeremiah - 600 B.C.
Ezekiel = Ezekiel - 550 B.C.
Daniel = Daniel - 550 B.C.
Hosea = Hosea - 750 B.C.
Joel = Joel - 850 B.C.
Amos = Amos - 750 B.C.
Obadiah = Obadiah - 600 B.C.
Jonah = Jonah - 700 B.C.
Micah = Micah - 700 B.C.
Nahum = Nahum - 650 B.C.
Habakkuk = Habakkuk - 600 B.C.
Zephaniah = Zephaniah - 650 B.C.
Haggai = Haggai - 520 B.C.
Zechariah = Zechariah - 500 B.C.
Malachi = Malachi - 430 B.C. the rest are a mixture of prophets and preists (Stand alone prophets and prophets that taught)

Matthew = Matthew - A.D. 55
Mark = John Mark - A.D. 50
Luke = Luke - A.D. 60
John = John - A.D. 90
Acts = Luke - A.D. 65
Romans, 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 Thessalonians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus, Philemon = Paul - A.D. 50-70
Hebrews = unknown, mostly likely Paul, Luke, Barnabas, or Apollos - A.D. 65
James = James - A.D. 45
1 Peter, 2 Peter = Peter - A.D. 60
1 John, 2 John, 3 John = John - A.D. 90
Jude = Jude - A.D. 60
Revelation = John - A.D. 90

Prophets were men in the OT who communed with God directly.

For the OT it was the Jews. The kept and identified what was canonical and what was not. There are some books like the books of Maccabees that tell of the origins of Hanukkah and the time between the current last book of the OT and the first book of the new. That some sects of Judaism and even some version of Christianity hold as canonical, but on whole do not meet the vetting process the other mainstream books had to pass.


I'll give you a short answer, and link you to a proper one.

After the first century the church began to splinter as the original twelve had disciples and those disciples had others. In an effort to re consolidate or unify the church under a single teaching or scripture. So the heads of the main stream churches at the time decided to call a big meeting in a little town called nicea around the beginning of the 3rd century. (I think there was like 14 meeting total the last one like 300 years ago or so.) But this first one was to unify the then church under one creed, or mission statment as because again it began to splinter. This is know as the Nicene creed. Remember this creed was issued before the bible was compiled so to some it maybe a little blasphemous. Which is why it has been rewritten several different times to align ourselves with a more accurate reading of scripture.

The second biggest thing to come out of that first meeting was a call to gather ALL writing concerning Jesus. This took decades. The call was not just limited to 'religious writings' but to anything that contained the mentioning of Jesus so it could be sorted and catalogued and preserved. So much of the surviving content written about Jesus from that time religious or secular is still apart of that library, but because the Vatican holds tight lock and key on those books... we may never know what they contain.

So again the church compiles catalogues and stores all writings on Jesus, then they go through it all trying to give us the information need to respond not only to the Gospel but to the relationship offered by God.

Where we know they Got it right is in the fact that no one church is supported completely in it's doctrine by the bible. Even though the R/C church has so tried over thousands of years.
http://www.biblica.com/bible/bible-faqs/...le-chosen/

Thanks for your input Drich; I'm just as interested in knowing the Party Line about the authors as the actual truth so who it is claimed are the authors and what is claimed about their source/method of insight, as well as the claimers of those claims... if different

Much of the 'truth' is subjective speculation based on a no God senerio. Meaning if there were no God how would these book be written and compiled? So the 'truth' is not true. by definition of the word. it simply provides those who do not believe in God with a possible alternative based on 'other' failed religions.

But what do you mean by 'commune' with God? That's a very vague term.... are you talking intuition, prayer, visions, or sitting down and having a beer with God?

from walking and talking with God to being pull from earth as the only Human being never having tasted death, because God loved him so much.

In essence God was a real interactive force in their lives and they as a result wielded the power of God. Some healed, some brought on drought, some raised the dead, some had power over animals, some were just crazy/God smart/wise, some were shown the future... think of all Jesus was and each power he had subdivided into individuals.