(January 13, 2017 at 3:01 pm)Rhythm Wrote: If you say so.
Any insight on the other bit though? Are we talking about the same thing when we talk about truth, or are you objecting to things I say about truth by reference to some other meaning of the word? Is discussing truth as I've consistently defined and used the term different, somehow, from discussing an insight meditation truth, or any other truth, as you're using the term?
I'd say truth in belief can simply be defined as having your belief match an objective property. I suppose the problem is that words themselves can be defined variously, often without a speaker knowing or thinking about it.
For example, take the idea of table flatness. Obviously, we have an idea of geometric flatness that is impossible-- we are tolerant to a degree about how close something needs to match that term to be called flat. You could say that if the outermost atoms of an object deviate from a virtually perfect plane no more than x%, people will generally call it flat, and so on. Or you could be hardass and say that nothing is flat at all.
As for spiritual insight-- I can't answer, because I don't have access to that intellectual context. I don't know what sensations or ideas might represent truth to them but not to me. But I've read that there are such states, and that they are common enough among experts to be classified and named.
