(January 16, 2017 at 6:36 pm)Asmodee Wrote:Not magically.... hypocritically.(January 15, 2017 at 5:42 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: The strange thing is as soon as Moses left the room, the people who had supposedly received direct evidence that there was a god and it was Yahweh, started to believe in another god that had not shown itself etc leading Moses to massacre thousands of them.
Which makes it really confusing when a Christian says that God can't prove himself because then you would have no choice but to believe and it would make faith unnecessary. That wasn't so with the Egyptians, the Jews, even the apostles, but somehow it's magically true now.
Quote: I am so sick of all the stupid excuses. Why can't a theist just come out and say, "I don't have any reason to believe, I just believe, and I can therefore not offer you any reason to believe." No, instead they have to make excuses, rewrite history, pretend to have an iron-clad case in every dumbass logical "proof" and constantly babble incoherently while using words like "proof" and "fact".
They need to use those terms to make it true to themselves.
It's not in vain that the term "delusion" has been employed as a way to describe them...