Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?

[Jesster]

I never said abortion wasn't killing

Oh so you do admit abortion is killing. My work here is done then.

I don't see it as killing, though. C-sections on viable children are abortions. That doesn't kill that child. What kills the fetus is its inability to sustain itself outside of the womb, even if it had other assistance.

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Just so the readers know, Orochi was originally arguing that abortion cannot possibly be classified as  killing because the fetus is just a clump of cells. Later Orochi said without even realizing that it is killing no matter how small the chunk of cells are.

Now Orochi has moved the goal post from "killing" to murder. Little does she know you can kill without being a murderer but cannot murder without being a killer.

It must be killing you how you're failing so miserably when you can't fill the thread with insults but instead have to actually give points to your reason.

Cool. Orochi doesn't make my arguments for me. That has changed 0% of my mind.