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Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
(January 22, 2017 at 1:25 pm)Whateverist Wrote:
(January 22, 2017 at 12:21 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Newborns and ppl with mental retardation such as Down Syndrome or anything of the like, don't have "minds like ourselves" either.


True, but that they exist at all is evidence that they matter to someone, someone like us who supports and loves them.  Therefore we have to extend to them the same consideration we do to others like ourselves, just as we expect them to do toward our loved ones.

You're saying the only reason babies and the mentally handicapped deserve the same considerations as ourselves (the right to life) is if they "matter" to someone more worthy. Shouldn't the fact that they are innocent human beings be enough?

That sounds incredibly cruel. And I don't mean that in a personally insulting way to you, as I know you're not a cruel person. But that just sounded really really bad. You're basically saying they are inherently lesser than us.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Amarok - January 21, 2017 at 1:26 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Chad32 - January 21, 2017 at 1:28 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by abaris - January 21, 2017 at 1:28 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Shell B - January 21, 2017 at 1:31 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Aroura - January 21, 2017 at 2:23 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by paulpablo - January 21, 2017 at 1:34 pm
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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Amarok - January 21, 2017 at 1:47 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by paulpablo - January 21, 2017 at 1:55 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Divinity - January 21, 2017 at 1:56 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by paulpablo - January 21, 2017 at 1:57 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Amarok - January 21, 2017 at 2:05 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by paulpablo - January 21, 2017 at 2:15 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Amarok - January 21, 2017 at 2:21 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Divinity - January 21, 2017 at 1:50 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by paulpablo - January 21, 2017 at 1:56 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Brian37 - January 21, 2017 at 1:43 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by paulpablo - January 21, 2017 at 1:46 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by brewer - January 21, 2017 at 1:50 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by brewer - January 21, 2017 at 1:47 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Jesster - January 21, 2017 at 1:49 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Brian37 - January 21, 2017 at 2:00 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by A Theist - January 21, 2017 at 1:50 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Amarok - January 21, 2017 at 1:57 pm
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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Amarok - January 21, 2017 at 1:58 pm
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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Amarok - January 21, 2017 at 2:33 pm
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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Alex K - January 21, 2017 at 2:37 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Amarok - January 21, 2017 at 3:26 pm
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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by LastPoet - January 21, 2017 at 6:03 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Amarok - January 21, 2017 at 4:02 pm
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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by vorlon13 - January 21, 2017 at 3:39 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Alex K - January 21, 2017 at 4:11 pm
Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by LadyForCamus - January 21, 2017 at 4:14 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by LastPoet - January 21, 2017 at 4:39 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Minimalist - January 21, 2017 at 5:22 pm
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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Amarok - January 21, 2017 at 10:51 pm
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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Tiberius - January 21, 2017 at 10:47 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Amarok - January 21, 2017 at 10:49 pm
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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Whateverist - January 21, 2017 at 11:12 pm
Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by LadyForCamus - January 21, 2017 at 11:28 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Whateverist - January 22, 2017 at 12:31 am
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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Whateverist - January 22, 2017 at 11:51 am
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