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If God created all the good things around us then it means he created all EVIL too
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RE: If God created all the good things around us then it means he created all EVIL too
Evil is not created; it's allowed. Why? God would rather have free will and evil, than no free will and no evil. Spiritual beings created are: Angels, and Humans. Angels have free will and no plan for Redemption; whereas, humans have free will and a plan for Redemption. God planned the 'Works of Redemption' before the Start of Creation*. Creation provides the stage or backdrop for the main purpose of the Universe which is Redemption. Free will provides a choice between eternal connection or separation with or from God. Whatever free will choice one makes (redemption or no redemption), all humans were created for the glory of God; humans who choose ‘connection’ give glory to God's Grace and Love (the 2'nd Person of the Trinity made an eternal sacrifice for each person individually [think of it as a separate eternal time-line compressed]); those who's choice is ‘separation’ give glory to God's infinity justice in that God will never compromise with sin, and He allows persons to elect independence from his influence, and He show love to even those who reject his offer of  connection, by limiting the freedom of expression of evil that individuals demonstrated in their earthly sojourn (the greater the demonstration of evil, the more restraint [torment] they will experience). The 'torment' is self-imposed; God's nature doesn't allow for it.

*Tim 1:9 He [God] has saved us and called us to a holy life, not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given to us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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RE: If God created all the good things around us then it means he created all EVIL too - by snowtracks - January 22, 2017 at 6:42 pm

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