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RE: How not to start a conversation with a skeptic...I think
February 1, 2017 at 1:32 am (This post was last modified: February 1, 2017 at 2:00 am by Huggy Bear.)
(January 31, 2017 at 3:53 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(January 31, 2017 at 11:10 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
I like how you atheists seem to think you know the bible, but can't seem to grasp that the Bible wasn't originally written in English and therefore what you perceive as a contradiction is not so in the context of the original language.
Yeah, leave it to an omnipotent, omniscient deity to have his 'word' (allegedly the most important message ever):
Be written decades or longer after the alleged events.
In languages he would know are sure to die, be susceptible to copy error, misinterpretations, human manipulation.
On little pieced of parchment, that are known to be easily destroyed.
To only a very small group of people in one very small geographical area on the planet, leaving the rest of humanity to 'invent' religions, that this deity would know would displease him.
Such great planning.
And none of this hints at Christianity being just another human 'invented' religion... Nope, not at all.
Actually the Bible was written first in the zodiac which I explained in this post.
(March 29, 2016 at 8:55 am)Huggy74 Wrote: For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: - Romans 1:20
I have always said that the ancient civilizations of the world were monotheists turned polytheists, and that Babylon was the origin of all the worlds mythologies as evidenced from my post from well over a year ago.
(December 11, 2014 at 4:40 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: The establishment of Babel (Babylon, a great civilization of ancient times), ushered in Polytheism which spread from Babel into Egypt, from Egypt to Greece, and from Greece into the world.
My point is, every polytheistic religion can be traced back to Babel.
As told in the book of Genesis, God promised the woman a seed (this is the prophecy of the virgin birth because "seed" only comes from the man) which we all know to be Jesus Christ, the redeemer.
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. - Genesis 3:15
In the Book of Revelation Jesus is the Lion of Judah.
And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5:5
Quote:The inset image is from the Temple of Esneh in Egypt. An image of s sphinx is placed between the signs for Leo (on the left) and Virgo (on the right, holding a branch). The word sphinx means “to bind closely together” (from the Greek Sphiggo). This indicates that this is the point at which the constellations begin and end. And, like the head of the sphinx, which is that of a woman, the constellations begin with Virgo, and end, like the tail of the sphinx, which is that of a lion, with Leo.
This means that before there was ever a scripture written God symbolized his plan in the zodiac and the ancient peoples knew this, and are without excuse.
Quote:Monotheism existed in ancient Kush long before the Jews were identifiable as a distinct people. Archaeological and anthropological evidence indicates that the Horite priests as early as 3000 B.C. believed in a single supreme creator.
Quote:The first mention of the Horites in the Torah was when they were defeated by a coalition of Eastern kings led by the Kedorlaomer of Elam (in modern Iran). These kings had come through the Horite territory to subdue a rebellion by a coalition of other 'kings' of peoples whom they had ruled for twelve years, who were living near the Dead Sea and Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 14:1-12).
Later, according to Genesis 36, the Horites co-existed and inter-married with the family of Esau, grandson of Abraham through Isaac (Genesis 25:21-25). They were eventually brought under the rule of the descendants of Esau, also then known as Edom.
As a side note, what I find Interesting is that the descendant of Esau were described as having red skin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edom
Quote:The Hebrew word Edom means "red", and is derived from the name of its original founder, whose name was Esau, the elder son of the Hebrew patriarch Isaac, because he was born "red all over".
Does the term "redskin" sound familiar? If we look at the native American symbol for God (The Great Spirit), and the symbol for Horus, they both depict an all seeing eye.
Could these native Americans be the descendants of the red-skinned Edomites formerly known as the Horites?
That being said, trying to blame peoples ignorance of the Bible on God is just asinine, especially since the Bible states to "lean not on your own understanding".
(January 31, 2017 at 3:59 pm)Astonished Wrote: Or that you are absolutely certain the original text was in fact perfect or different in any significant way. By the way, do you care to back that claim up, Hugs, or are you just going to sit there with your thumb up your ass to hold in yet another empty, baseless assertion? Want to put some green on that proposition? And even if you're right, that means we can infer nothing whatsoever from the bible in its current form and is therefore useless and we should all be deists AT BEST. There's no part of that argument that doesn't make the proponent look foolish.
First of all you made the claim that there are contradictions in the Bible. I clearly asked you to provide evidence of the contradiction (this means to provide the conflicting scriptures). You have yet to do this.
You imply that a loving God flooding the world is contradictory, which shows you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. God is a loving God but he is also a God of Justice. Law requires a penalty, and the penalty for sin is death.
Noah warned of the flood for 120 years, no one believed him...
And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; - 2 Peter 2:5
You've had just as much warning, what's your excuse? If God was to destroy you in the same manner, after all the warning you received (let's not forget, you know the Bible better than theists do) would you consider that an injustice?